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12 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

 

One European escort asked me to do this once. He was shopping in Denver's ritzy shopping area and asked if I could arrange a Lyft or Uber to pick him up and take him to his hotel (where we were going to meet). I got his address and picked him up myself. I was actually a Lyft driver at the time, this shopping area is only maybe 2 miles away and his hotel wasn't far and had parking. 

He was a little surprised that his Lyft driver was also his client, but he thought it was funny and actually gave me a bit of a longer session than I think he normally would've since i got him the ride.

 

Oh you gave him a ride and he gave you a ride. How apt 😂

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2 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

I think clients can definitely be more thoughtful. When I travel to a city, I often look for a hotel that's just outside the downtown area. When I was in Portland in June, I found a really nice motel-like place in East Portland with a parking lot. The neighborhood itself was really cool with lots of great restaurants and breweries and it was fairly accessible to downtown. And it was really easy for the travelling escort to find me and find parking. It worked really well. 

I generally stay where I need to be . If the provider has a problem with getting to me it should be discussed at the start not minutes before the appointment. The conversation could go like this - 200 h plus incidentals / parking etc . The client can then say my rate has free valet parking etc ( mine sometimes does )  or yes that’s fine . 

 

i guess from now on I am going to ask providers if there are add ons 

Some of this is cultural too - I in brazil cab to from is expected 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here’s how I feel about paying for transportation: it’s your gut. I don’t think there’s a hard-and-fast rule. But your gut, not your dick, will likely not lie to you. I’ve paid for bus, train, and plane tickets before meeting a provider, and every time it was okay. But I’ve also declined because my gut said it was off.

As for paying for transportation to work and having your employer pay for work travel, the IRS is pretty clear. Travel to and from work is not travel for work. Your employer is not responsible for paying for you to get to work. This isn’t difficult to understand…

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36 minutes ago, OccassionalHire said:

I was hiring in London once and my hotel was 3 tube stops away from the provider (he told me what his nearest station was). Rather than just jump on the tube for a 10 minute ride, he wanted me to get him an uber back and forth. I passed. 

He was probably too precious to travel by tube. I don’t mind going by tube but it’s not unreasonable I think to expect my client to pay for an Uber home afterwards (I include it in my rate for outcalls). Who wants to leak while on the tube? 

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Uber is not that expensive in London ( when it’s not surging )  .  London has a few apps for this . Have you seen what the uber prices are in New York ? I don’t use it because it’s so high compared to a yellow cab or even Lyft 

I paid for the last one because the provider doesn’t live near a tube stop and i wanted him in a good mood 

I generally hate the car service tack on - but i try to bake it in with his fee  ,  a common practice in Brazil . 

I can understand why clients from the states don’t like this - not the done thing . If i am asked to pay for car service i don’t tip . A lot of this is cultural 

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Occasionally I’ve been asked to pay for Uber or Lyft. No problem. Sometimes the younger providers don’t have cars so they’ve taken the Mega bus from their city to meet me halfway. Again, it’s pretty cheap and it’s worked for me in medium-sized cities. Hell, the much-discussed Dima even took the bus from Atlanta to meet me in my hotel in Chattanooga for an overnight. The bus certainly wasn’t beneath him.

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Maybe the reason some Providers ask you to arrange the transportation is because it dedicated you to meeting. By this I mean to say that some Providers may feel they are at risk of arranging and paying for the transportation themselves but then having the client cancel at the last minute or not show up or something like that.

 I don’t think it’s “always” reasonable for Clients to pay for their Providers transportation… like it’s expected and they deserve it~ Don’t get me wrong: i’ve been doing this for going on 22yrs. This profession and especially the way I navigate through mine as a global traveler, accrues overhead expense~ I’m conscious and careful about that~ we have phone expenses, computer expenses, ads and marketing expenses, clothing expenses, gym expenses, food expenses, hotel expenses, rental car, lube, toys, gear, time that is uncompensated and unrecoverable, (ie. some lengthy travel time, sick time), out of pocket costs for PreP, sti screening, condoms, passports, over seas drivers licenses, tour and adventure expenses paid upfront even if reimbursed at some later date, etc… These things add up~
 I appreciate it when a Client understands these things and offers to help out by taking into consideration taxi, Uber, lyft, petrole.  Fairs that are 10, 15, 20$, I submit into my expense report and deal with as a deduction and business expense at tax time~ I meticulously keep my receipts and records so I can account for business expenses that apply~  There is no need for me to annoy a Client with those petty costs when I can reclaim them at tax time. 

 Most of the time I don’t ask Clients to cover my Transportation~ Sometimes it’s appropriate and other times asking just seems petty~ Asking someone for cab fare whose taken me around the world and that I’ve known for twenty years seems insulting~ 
  I usually appreciate their provision for me and show them by being rather lax about my time. I’ve never been a clock watcher but, when a Client extends their extra care for me, I reciprocate with some giving of myself… Maybe I show them in some other way by treating them to something special they enjoy like the theater or a concert or something to show them I care back about them, (a birthday celebration, walk in the park, ride in a gondola)~ 

  Asking someone to cover/arrange my lyft when I’ve never seen them, they live an hour away from my location and the one way is over $50 seems fare to me~  

  If my round-trip is costing me 40, 50, $60 or more, my clients generally offer anyway~ 
 
 I had one Client suggest we split a $100 round trip fare and then he stated trying to negotiate my rates. That basically showed me he wanted to meet but, at my expense~ I declined both the offer to split the fare and negotiate my rates. it was a disrespect of boundaries on his part. 


 

 

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On 11/2/2021 at 9:32 PM, Tygerscent said:

Maybe the reason some Providers ask you to arrange the transportation is because it dedicated you to meeting.

 

On 11/2/2021 at 9:32 PM, Tygerscent said:

Asking someone to cover/arrange my lyft when I’ve never seen them,

 

On 11/2/2021 at 9:32 PM, Tygerscent said:

These things add up~

 

I respectfully disagree with you. Completely. 

You are running a business, and it should be run with the standard business model western society is familiar with. Or get questions/concerns/issues/pushback. Or people who refuse to use your services.  

FYI: I practice what I preach.  I'm a physician in private practice & run my business (clinic) all by myself.  I see patients in my clinic and I love what I do.  But whether I'm running a primary care clinic or an accounting firm or law firm or whatever, the same business principles apply to me. To you too, as well.

It's not uncommon for me to see patients on a Saturday.  I hate putting patient requests for appointments too many weeks in advance.  Patients want (need) to be seen sooner, not later. It's their health.  So I offer on occasion a Saturday here & there to keep appointments a reasonable amount of time from when they request it. Which means I gotta ask my staff to come in on their weekend and work. And PAY THEM OVERTIME.  It's quite costly & frankly, a negotiation with my staff & a logistical complexity.  My patients know nothing about that. Nor should they, they just seek care. 

But my fees for being their physician needs to cover everything that entails the cost of providing the patients medical services: its gotta cover my staff salaries, overtime,  rent, utilities,  malpractice etc & ultimately my paycheck. So escorts asking clients to pay for an Uber just looks bad. 

And guess what? Sometimes I have no-shows just like escorts. Escorts seem to think they are the only ones who experience no-shows. But I get them & it frustrates me a lot.  Sometimes its even on a Saturday, dang it! And sometimes it's a patient I've never seen before who no-shows ON A SATURDAY.  But no-shows are part of the reality of being in business.  And my fees need to take that into account,  meaning I expect a certain (small) percentage of my appointments to end as no-shows (therefore no money for me). 

Therefore, an escort asking clients to pay his rate PLUS an Uber is ridiculous.  An escorts hourly fee should encompass ALL of the expenses (including transportation costs), which should include allowing a percentage of no-shows.  Demanding me to pay for an Uber makes the escort seem unprofessional. When I start sniffing "unprofessional" I refuse to book. 

Unprofessional is also this maybe-I'll-offer-a-better-time-if-they-take-care-of-me mentality.

On 11/2/2021 at 9:32 PM, Tygerscent said:

I usually appreciate their provision for me and show them by being rather lax about my time. I’ve never been a clock watcher but, when a Client extends their extra care for me, I reciprocate with some giving of myself… Maybe I show them in some other way by treating them to something special they enjoy

No matter how much my patient pays me, whether I like the patient or not, whether I'm tired, bored, busy, sick whatever, the ultimate in Professionalism is ALWAYS giving my 100%. Did you know that physicians by law are NOT allowed to accept "gifts"? Sure, we can (gladly!) accept a (small) plate of cookies or something of very marginal value,  but anything of value is a HUGE no-no in the medical profession.  The agreed upon fees that are paid to me are the complete reimbursement for my services. I cant give one patient one standard of care, and another one a different (higher) standard (cuz he bought me opera tickets). The reason why gifts are forbidden in my profession is if allowed, patients might think, "oh, he wont take good care of me today cuz I didnt bring him a nice gift".  A patient gets my 100% cuz he's my patient,  not cuz of a gift. My fee, which incorporates the cost of my overhead & my salary,  is the complete reimbursement for all my services.  It's called Professionalism. 

So yah, no Ubers for me.  Sure, I've been asked a few times. And always declined. And ALWAYS found a guy who doesn't ask for an Uber. 

 

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5 hours ago, josh282282 said:

 

 

 

I respectfully disagree with you. Completely. 

You are running a business, and it should be run with the standard business model western society is familiar with. Or get questions/concerns/issues/pushback. Or people who refuse to use your services.  

FYI: I practice what I preach.  I'm a physician in private practice & run my business (clinic) all by myself.  I see patients in my clinic and I love what I do.  But whether I'm running a primary care clinic or an accounting firm or law firm or whatever, the same business principles apply to me. To you too, as well.

It's not uncommon for me to see patients on a Saturday.  I hate putting patient requests for appointments too many weeks in advance.  Patients want (need) to be seen sooner, not later. It's their health.  So I offer on occasion a Saturday here & there to keep appointments a reasonable amount of time from when they request it. Which means I gotta ask my staff to come in on their weekend and work. And PAY THEM OVERTIME.  It's quite costly & frankly, a negotiation with my staff & a logistical complexity.  My patients know nothing about that. Nor should they, they just seek care. 

But my fees for being their physician needs to cover everything that entails the cost of providing the patients medical services: its gotta cover my staff salaries, overtime,  rent, utilities,  malpractice etc & ultimately my paycheck. So escorts asking clients to pay for an Uber just looks bad. 

And guess what? Sometimes I have no-shows just like escorts. Escorts seem to think they are the only ones who experience no-shows. But I get them & it frustrates me a lot.  Sometimes its even on a Saturday, dang it! And sometimes it's a patient I've never seen before who no-shows ON A SATURDAY.  But no-shows are part of the reality of being in business.  And my fees need to take that into account,  meaning I expect a certain (small) percentage of my appointments to end as no-shows (therefore no money for me). 

Therefore, an escort asking clients to pay his rate PLUS an Uber is ridiculous.  An escorts hourly fee should encompass ALL of the expenses (including transportation costs), which should include allowing a percentage of no-shows.  Demanding me to pay for an Uber makes the escort seem unprofessional. When I start sniffing "unprofessional" I refuse to book. 

Unprofessional is also this maybe-I'll-offer-a-better-time-if-they-take-care-of-me mentality.

No matter how much my patient pays me, whether I like the patient or not, whether I'm tired, bored, busy, sick whatever, the ultimate in Professionalism is ALWAYS giving my 100%. Did you know that physicians by law are NOT allowed to accept "gifts"? Sure, we can (gladly!) accept a (small) plate of cookies or something of very marginal value,  but anything of value is a HUGE no-no in the medical profession.  The agreed upon fees that are paid to me are the complete reimbursement for my services. I cant give one patient one standard of care, and another one a different (higher) standard (cuz he bought me opera tickets). The reason why gifts are forbidden in my profession is if allowed, patients might think, "oh, he wont take good care of me today cuz I didnt bring him a nice gift".  A patient gets my 100% cuz he's my patient,  not cuz of a gift. My fee, which incorporates the cost of my overhead & my salary,  is the complete reimbursement for all my services.  It's called Professionalism. 

So yah, no Ubers for me.  Sure, I've been asked a few times. And always declined. And ALWAYS found a guy who doesn't ask for an Uber. 

 

@josh282282 I agree with you completely . I too run a business and there are certain standards for operating. However I assume you are US based, a lot of this is cultural . I tend to hire overseas, and when I do I all the US cultural norms go out the door - this includes tipping , unless it’s really good . ( and I mean really good ) . I  adapt to the local hiring practices .  That said i’ll be dammed if a London boy added on a 5% discretionary service charge which has now become the norm in London . I don’t mind paying if it’s good .  What i have noticed over the years is that things that start out in London eventually makes it way to New York and vice versa . 

In the US we have a culture of self reliance,  taking personal responsibility and being independent are all treasured traits . Overseas , there is sort of an expectation that if you are the employer - you are expected to provide . I remember years ago working  in the Netherlands  , and during lunch hour - they provided us lunch. I thought it was just for us as the visitors, it turns out it was for the whole company! later I found out it’s part of the employment law there . Every day. Can you imagine such a thing in the US?  The only companies i know do this are google, facebook etc .  I do this once a month pre covid because thats what I was comfortable with , a treat to my employees.  But doing this every day is a bit rich .

So this extra spoon feeding is expected in Europe and drumroll please - Brazil 🇧🇷 , adjust accordingly.  They got used to it , they expect it . 

Now American / US based guys pulling asking for the same stuff in LA, NY, SF = well no . In fact I offered to coach a UK based provider who expressed interest in coming to New York , the first thing i told him was don’t ask for cab money because the folks stateside don’t like it . 

At the end of the day , I believe in paying fairly . Should i ask for cab money for an in call appointment? I would love to see the look a guys face when I suggest that . 

There are circumstances where cab to from is warranted- this has been discussed previously - that I think is ok 

I have also offered to pay for parking when I am at a nice place and it costs $20 just to enter , but not gas , even in southern california where gas is not what it used to be . That’s the cost of doing business 

I can see both sides of the coin here . My motto is adopt local practices.  I have disappointed many people worldwide - because as soon as they hear me speak they all expect a 20% tip . I only do that stateside 

 

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4 hours ago, jetlow said:

@josh282282 I agree with you completely . I too run a business and there are certain standards for operating. However I assume you are US based, a lot of this is cultural . I tend to hire overseas, and when I do I all the US cultural norms go out the door - this includes tipping , unless it’s really good . ( and I mean really good ) . I  adapt to the local hiring practices .  That said i’ll be dammed if a London boy added on a 5% discretionary service charge which has now become the norm in London . I don’t mind paying if it’s good .  What i have noticed over the years is that things that start out in London eventually makes it way to New York and vice versa . 

In the US we have a culture of self reliance,  taking personal responsibility and being independent are all treasured traits . Overseas , there is sort of an expectation that if you are the employer - you are expected to provide . I remember years ago working  in the Netherlands  , and during lunch hour - they provided us lunch. I thought it was just for us as the visitors, it turns out it was for the whole company! later I found out it’s part of the employment law there . Every day. Can you imagine such a thing in the US?  The only companies i know do this are google, facebook etc .  I do this once a month pre covid because thats what I was comfortable with , a treat to my employees.  But doing this every day is a bit rich .

So this extra spoon feeding is expected in Europe and drumroll please - Brazil 🇧🇷 , adjust accordingly.  They got used to it , they expect it . 

Now American / US based guys pulling asking for the same stuff in LA, NY, SF = well no . In fact I offered to coach a UK based provider who expressed interest in coming to New York , the first thing i told him was don’t ask for cab money because the folks stateside don’t like it . 

At the end of the day , I believe in paying fairly . Should i ask for cab money for an in call appointment? I would love to see the look a guys face when I suggest that . 

There are circumstances where cab to from is warranted- this has been discussed previously - that I think is ok 

I have also offered to pay for parking when I am at a nice place and it costs $20 just to enter , but not gas , even in southern california where gas is not what it used to be . That’s the cost of doing business 

I can see both sides of the coin here . My motto is adopt local practices.  I have disappointed many people worldwide - because as soon as they hear me speak they all expect a 20% tip . I only do that stateside 

 

I think the rate schedule comes into play here as well… I mean if a Service Provider is asking for $250 for one hour and their transportation fee to get to their Client is nearly $100 round trip and 3 to 6 hours travel time and the parking is another $30+, there’s a cost effectiveness concern~
  Service Providers are not making lawyer and physician salaries and the workflow is different. The liabilities are different for each. The overhead is different for each.

 They are very different professions and each are run differently.
 I’ve seen the situation where a patient is charged for not showing up an appointment… The patient can be billed directly or through the insurance company. That is not an option with a service provider . 
 While physicians and Lawyers both charge for time on their own merit and way, they also have insurance companies involved. The financial burden is not exclusively on the patient. The tax structure for these jobs is different as well…

 Some Service Providers are “providers beyond borders”, a physician with a clinic is not a “doctor beyond borders” and operates differently than ones who are.  
 While tipping doctors, lawyers, office and factory jobs isn’t appropriate, tipping waiters, chefs, cab drivers, Uber and Lyft is expected~ All of those jobs have retirement plans, bonuses, tax structures, raises, overtime, etc built in~ Escorting and Prostitution do not~ I think it would be awesome if some of those things were structured into the escort/prostitution profession~ Maybe that could happen if the laws around that profession changed or if there were service provider unions. 
  I personally don’t ask for my Clients to pay for my Ubers and Lyfts. I never ask for a “show up fee”, (some base rate just because I’ve arrived), I’ve never put Clients on the cafeteria plan where what I charge them for is based on what we do. 
 I’ve seen all of those things in places like London, california, some places abroad and notoriously Florida~ I’ve seen things where providers charge different rates depending on their clients age, physical appearance and health. I don’t do any of that myself, but I’ve seen that~

 In fact, physicians and lawyers actually do that sort of thing just by the nature of their business… both lawyers and physicians operate on a cafeteria type fee schedule: There was an office fee, and then whatever incidentals might accrue for whatever malady a patient is being seen for.
 I’ve also seen service providers charge  their Clients similarly and including transportation to and fro. I think what they’re trying to do is offset their overhead~ They may also charge exorbitant fees or extra for their specific or specialty services, (and include additional fees for prep time for the same reasons…

 Since I don’t operate my own personal business that way, I don’t know the exact reasons they do this but, I can see why in some instances paying for transportation makes sense and other times it does not. Obviously, a physician running their own clinic is not charging each individual patient to drive that physician to and from his office per patient visit but, Also, each patient is not being charged exactly the same price for whatever their visit is about. Imagine how different the scenario would be if the patient was expecting the doctor to do house calls a vast percentage of the time instead of operate out of an office and the house calls were I different counties, states, countries~ Imagine if a physician could only charge a single fee to their patients for services rendered. 

 in my mind… The idea of comparing the business modality of physicians and lawyers to Service Providers seems problematic and potential for inaccuracies~ 

 It might make a difference if prostitutes, Escorts etc we’re able to formulate their businesses as corporations, LLC’s etc~ 

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9 hours ago, josh282282 said:

 

 

 

I respectfully disagree with you. Completely. 

You are running a business, and it should be run with the standard business model western society is familiar with. Or get questions/concerns/issues/pushback. Or people who refuse to use your services.  

FYI: I practice what I preach.  I'm a physician in private practice & run my business (clinic) all by myself.  I see patients in my clinic and I love what I do.  But whether I'm running a primary care clinic or an accounting firm or law firm or whatever, the same business principles apply to me. To you too, as well.

It's not uncommon for me to see patients on a Saturday.  I hate putting patient requests for appointments too many weeks in advance.  Patients want (need) to be seen sooner, not later. It's their health.  So I offer on occasion a Saturday here & there to keep appointments a reasonable amount of time from when they request it. Which means I gotta ask my staff to come in on their weekend and work. And PAY THEM OVERTIME.  It's quite costly & frankly, a negotiation with my staff & a logistical complexity.  My patients know nothing about that. Nor should they, they just seek care. 

But my fees for being their physician needs to cover everything that entails the cost of providing the patients medical services: its gotta cover my staff salaries, overtime,  rent, utilities,  malpractice etc & ultimately my paycheck. So escorts asking clients to pay for an Uber just looks bad. 

And guess what? Sometimes I have no-shows just like escorts. Escorts seem to think they are the only ones who experience no-shows. But I get them & it frustrates me a lot.  Sometimes its even on a Saturday, dang it! And sometimes it's a patient I've never seen before who no-shows ON A SATURDAY.  But no-shows are part of the reality of being in business.  And my fees need to take that into account,  meaning I expect a certain (small) percentage of my appointments to end as no-shows (therefore no money for me). 

Therefore, an escort asking clients to pay his rate PLUS an Uber is ridiculous.  An escorts hourly fee should encompass ALL of the expenses (including transportation costs), which should include allowing a percentage of no-shows.  Demanding me to pay for an Uber makes the escort seem unprofessional. When I start sniffing "unprofessional" I refuse to book. 

Unprofessional is also this maybe-I'll-offer-a-better-time-if-they-take-care-of-me mentality.

No matter how much my patient pays me, whether I like the patient or not, whether I'm tired, bored, busy, sick whatever, the ultimate in Professionalism is ALWAYS giving my 100%. Did you know that physicians by law are NOT allowed to accept "gifts"? Sure, we can (gladly!) accept a (small) plate of cookies or something of very marginal value,  but anything of value is a HUGE no-no in the medical profession.  The agreed upon fees that are paid to me are the complete reimbursement for my services. I cant give one patient one standard of care, and another one a different (higher) standard (cuz he bought me opera tickets). The reason why gifts are forbidden in my profession is if allowed, patients might think, "oh, he wont take good care of me today cuz I didnt bring him a nice gift".  A patient gets my 100% cuz he's my patient,  not cuz of a gift. My fee, which incorporates the cost of my overhead & my salary,  is the complete reimbursement for all my services.  It's called Professionalism. 

So yah, no Ubers for me.  Sure, I've been asked a few times. And always declined. And ALWAYS found a guy who doesn't ask for an Uber. 

 

Insurance that is structured into your profession is one of the things that allows for your “completed reimbursement” for all your services. That is not the case in either Escorting or Prostitution in this country. Neither physicians nor lawyers exchange with their clients/patients on the same degree of intimacy as Service Providers~ In an obvious example: I’m guessing that you don’t have sex with your patients. That alone is a game changer if not in theory, by law. 
 Imagine if a physician had no insurance structured into their businesses and charged each patient exactly the same amount each time. It would absolutely change the demographics of being a physician and a patient. Imagine if sexual relations was part of that job. Imagine if being a physician was limited by laws the way prostitution is. Escorting is limited by laws in its own way but, actually different than prostitution. It is not an uncommon theme that Prostitution is legally recognized as the exchange of sex for money, (etc), while Escorting is seen as an exchange of money for time and not for specific services rendered. 

 Some of us service providers have been with our clients when they passed away… We’ve sat with them just like maybe you have. While some things we do in our professions operate on the surface similarly, they are very, very different professions operating on a very different level in so many other ways. While I can lump Physicians, nurses, lawyers, wait staff, restaurant owners, teachers, armed forces, corporations, LLC’s, landscapers, surveyors, Escorts and Prostitutes all as service providers, they are by nature not the same as don’t operate on a single business modality. 

 

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4 hours ago, jetlow said:

@josh282282 I agree with you completely . I too run a business and there are certain standards for operating. However I assume you are US based, a lot of this is cultural . I tend to hire overseas, and when I do I all the US cultural norms go out the door - this includes tipping , unless it’s really good . ( and I mean really good ) . I  adapt to the local hiring practices .  That said i’ll be dammed if a London boy added on a 5% discretionary service charge which has now become the norm in London . I don’t mind paying if it’s good .  What i have noticed over the years is that things that start out in London eventually makes it way to New York and vice versa . 

In the US we have a culture of self reliance,  taking personal responsibility and being independent are all treasured traits . Overseas , there is sort of an expectation that if you are the employer - you are expected to provide . I remember years ago working  in the Netherlands  , and during lunch hour - they provided us lunch. I thought it was just for us as the visitors, it turns out it was for the whole company! later I found out it’s part of the employment law there . Every day. Can you imagine such a thing in the US?  The only companies i know do this are google, facebook etc .  I do this once a month pre covid because thats what I was comfortable with , a treat to my employees.  But doing this every day is a bit rich .

So this extra spoon feeding is expected in Europe and drumroll please - Brazil 🇧🇷 , adjust accordingly.  They got used to it , they expect it . 

Now American / US based guys pulling asking for the same stuff in LA, NY, SF = well no . In fact I offered to coach a UK based provider who expressed interest in coming to New York , the first thing i told him was don’t ask for cab money because the folks stateside don’t like it . 

At the end of the day , I believe in paying fairly . Should i ask for cab money for an in call appointment? I would love to see the look a guys face when I suggest that . 

There are circumstances where cab to from is warranted- this has been discussed previously - that I think is ok 

I have also offered to pay for parking when I am at a nice place and it costs $20 just to enter , but not gas , even in southern california where gas is not what it used to be . That’s the cost of doing business 

I can see both sides of the coin here . My motto is adopt local practices.  I have disappointed many people worldwide - because as soon as they hear me speak they all expect a 20% tip . I only do that stateside 

 

That’s a very good point that you bring up regarding cultural differences… And if I may also include not only cultural differences abroad between different cities in different countries but, the same holds true from state to state in “America”~ 

 The demographics and how people view/operate/navigate the profession is very different in New York City than it is from Florida or California or Texas or Montana or Utah or Idaho or Ohio or Wisconsin or… or… or… my experience leads me to think that each region has its own structure, organization and mentality regarding Prostitution and Escorting, (and others related Service Provider specialist careers like masseuses, sex therapists etc…~). Some of the things impacting all of that are: local economy, local law, local mindsets/religion/belief systems, Proportion of ethnic diversity, the poverty to affluence ratio… and more~ 

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On 9/25/2021 at 2:22 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Let's create 2 threads in one:

Who Pays For Parking when the escort travels out?

I ask especially as I do a ton of outcalls. I also don't host much at home and prefer outcalls. However, I do cringe every so often (used to be a common occurrence in Orlando and Denver) I get invited to big posh hotel. Yes, I'm excited to see the architechture, and it's likely going to be a good booking. But some hotels and even residences (as I found out in kansas city the other day) obligate you to pay for parking. I've seen some upwards of $28 even for a couple of hours (Opry Nashville for example).

Sure, I can commute to the client...but when it comes to parking I've resolved to often ask the client to lend me their key card, and I'll pull around to the lobby and give it back. One client in Chicago couple months ago, the overnight garage parking was like $50, and he had no problem validating the ticket on his room.

Meanwhile, I had a client the other day who I feel maybe got upset at me...because as I was leaving the apartment building garage which he instructed me to park in, I couldn't get out unless I paid $5. Apparently, "validating" the ticket didn't make it free, it just made it $5 instead of $4 an hour. I called him a couple of times informing of it. And it was card only. He's like, "you don't have a credit card?" 

I know it was only $5, but I wasn't prepared to pay that...considering I wasn't aware that was the case. I would have more gladly picked up street parking if I needed to. $5 is a lot, considering the current gas prices have me putting in $25-30 and not getting but a few drops of the 91 my cars run on, and I live a good 125 mile round trip from downtown and do that commute 2-3 times a week. It would be 7 times a week, but half these fuckers don't give enough notice, or aren't serious about shit to begin with. 

When I travel and expect to hire I chose my hotel based on all the facts and try to make it as convenient for me as well as the provider. I fully expect to pay for parking. If I don’t have a car there myself I let him know that I will be giving him cash to cover his parking or valet. If I do have a car in the garage I always use my key card to let him out so he doesn’t have to pay. It’s only courteous to do so. 

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If someone is coming to see you if they aren’t driving I think it should be standard. Especially when I’ve traveled to cities and won’t have a car someone wants me to travel to them. I think ordering an uber for them just feels more safe because they know it’s a go deal. I’ve taken Ubers and went all the way there for someone to stand me up and not answer texts. If you aren’t ordering a car and they are, I think they should be reimbursed. Hope this helps 🥰

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