Negotiating

[Guest NYCMuscBoy]

I usually frown on the use of the Internet abbreviation "LOL" -- how often does one really laugh out loud online? -- but the above post really cracked me up.

[Guest Jake]

You do whatever makes you happy regulation. Then again, I am definitely not a negotiator.

[Guest regulation]

>You do whatever makes you happy

>regulation.

 

 

In that case, rather than quote your harsh words to NYCMuscBoy I'll give you a quote from one of my favorite plays, Moliere's Le Misanthrope: "You should leave the sins of others alone, until you've made some progress with your own."

 

 

Then again, I

>am definitely not a negotiator.

>

 

Thanks for making that clear.

[Guest allansmith63]

Didn't you mean to say "eBoy"?

 

Oh, by the way, Matt's busy on the night that you plan for the auction...

 

A.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

NYCMuscBoy

 

>I usually frown on the use

>of the Internet abbreviation "LOL"

 

 

The first comment of yours in this thread to give me pause...

[Guest farside]

It seems as if you have selected the wrong part time business to be in. You are so inflexible and so into blaming others that I wonder if you are hired very often or if you even have any repeat customers. I sort of doubt the latter due to the statements you have made in this thread. While an interesting thread I see you aas nothing more than a Gorified Street Hustler. You asked for feedback, you now have mine.

[Guest farside]

>>As a businessman I care about

>>the price of all of

>>the goods and services I

>>purchase. That includes escorts.

>> I've found that their

>>prices are often negotiable, and

>>I have on several occasions

>>negotiated a significantly lower rate.

>> Negotiating is a task

>>that everyone in business must

>>perform from time to time.

>> As with many other

>>types of tasks, those who

>>don't enjoy it usually aren't

>>very good at it.

>>I do enjoy it, and

>>I recommend it for the

>>satisfaction one feels at the

>>conclusion of a successful negotiation

>>as much as for the

>>rather modest amounts of money

>>one saves in the escort

>>situation.

>>

>>The type of situation I don't

>>enjoy is one in which

>>the seller has the attitude,

>>"If you have to ask

>>how much it is, you

>>probably can't afford it."

>>I've found that this sort

>>of attitude is usually meant

>>to discourage people from looking

>>too closely at the value

>>of what they are buying,

>>as evidence the recent prosecutions

>>of Christie's and Sotheby's for

>>price fixing.

>

>I, too am a businessman and

>I negotiate daily. I

>feel what you are saying,

>but I have found that

>dealing with escorts you are

>negotiating with not so much

>a commodity, but an emotion

>and I have found that

>when you negotiate down, the

>human in the escort may

>not perform to your expectations,

>thus creating false chemistry and

>thus a less than perfect

>encounter resulting in a negative

>review, which is probably unwarranted.

>

>

>Give them what they ask for

>or find one you can

>afford. We're not dealing

>in real estate here.

>And if they overprice themselves

>for the marketplace, so be

>it. If no one

>pays their price, they will

>eventually lower it. Supply

>and demand.

>

HooBoy I disagree with your thoughts here. I do not purchase any service blindly and do not spend money in needless ways. I have negotiated often with esocrts and they have seemed happy with the agreed to fee. I have even had escorts initiate the negotiations when I tell them I'm interested yet their fee is too high.

 

Some escort's services are worth more than others. Yet generally I have found that this isn't due to what they charge it is due to what they do to please their clients. So often I have been with an esocrt less than others and have had a great time. And i ahve tried the overpriced ones only to find they didn't serve me as a customer well (in some cases). Yes what the market will pay is important and some will eventualy outprice themselves. Some already have. Yet far more often than not I find it reasonable to request a better fee. And more often than not I have received a positive response.

 

I also should add that I will tip an escort who I feel went out of his way to meet my needs. I would say that I tip at least 7 out of every 10 escorts I have hired.

 

And yes they are a commodity.

[Guest NYCMuscBoy]

Then I am proud to be a "Gorified [sic] Street Hustler!"

 

What is the point of this discussion group if we can't discuss? I expressed my feelings, and if you find them lacking, and me a dreadful person, that's just fine. I don't use this site as a means to draw business to myself, so I feel more comfortable discussing openly what I think.

 

In posts in the above thread, I've noted that I have a great deal of trust in my clients, who are mostly repeat customers, and that I run a quality business for which I don't charge a fortune.

 

As to your charges of being inflexible: I am, incidentally, very flexible, as I attend yoga at least once a week.

 

I am beginning to see why all other escorts have steered clear of this discussion -- some things are probably best not discussed.

[Guest NYCMuscBoy]

A diversion LOL

 

I was momentarily crabby about the use of "LOL."

 

I was reeling from a recent Internet conversation with an 18 year-old, whose every other word was "LOL." As in: "Hi there LOL LOL I'm just hangin LOL LOL LOL."

 

LOL.

[Guest curious]

With all those sessions with Matt, I doubt virgin anything works as an excuse anymore.

[Guest allansmith63]

Curious - I am of course deeply offended by your last post, however, I find myself unable to stop laughing long enough to insult your wit...

 

A.

[Bilbo]

I actually count my money in front of most of my clients for a quite different reason - the way that new bills from an ATM stick together so badly anymore. I certainly don't mind being tipped, but I want to know if I am so that I won't get upset at someone accidentily paying me more than he meant to. I once had a gentleman who owed me $210 pay me in cash. I checked it and he had unintentionally given me three hundreds and the ten, instead of just two.

[Matt_Vancouver]

I'm not up for auction: ) but thanx for thinking of me: )

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-00 AT 10:49AM (EST)[p]No, strictly firm fixed-priced (for those into gov't contracting, this takes on a slightly different meaning).

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: A diversion LOL

 

Ah, PMS -- I get a touch now and then myself.

 

No problem, it passes as surely as a bad chinese dinner!

 

LOL

 

Now being 18 doesn't pass so easily...only with time (if one is lucky).

[Rod Hagen]

Nice Guy, That was a hell of a night. I never see you on AOL anymore. IM me. LATER :-)

[Guest timtx]

I will lower my rates sometimes, but normally only for longer term meetings and for repeate good customers.

 

Oh I do reduce rates for birthdays, and when they really just need more of an escort than a sex partner.

 

Drop it 40pct? Not likely on an hourly.