Real Straight Guys.

[studchaser]

I know from a marketing standpoint "straight" has lost its meaning. However i have come to find out that many super diacrete under the radar clients have said they ONLY book what in essence are unknown straight guys. Released military, ex athletes in hypermaculine sports(football,wrestling,hockey etc) , laid off blue collar,and even ex cons readjusting. Is anyone on here aware of these types of under the radar type guys? Or have you met men on sites that fit the bill?

 

As much as this site is a beacon for information it seems more fitting for your garden variety gay provider that rarely fits the profile of that "exclusive,elusive,untouchable" type. Those guys are out there and want to do this but there is no effort or forums dedicated to it. Anyone have any info or know any resources?

Edited July 30, 2021 by studchaser

[marylander1940]

8 minutes ago, studchaser said:

I know from a marjeting standpoint "straight" has lost its meaning. However i have come to find out that many super diacrete under the radar clients have said they ONLY book what in essence are unknown straight guys. Released military, ex athletes in hypermaculine sports(football,wrestling,hockey etc) , laid off blue collar,and even ex cons readjusting. Is anyone on here aware of these types of under the radar type guys? Or have you met men on sites that fit the bill?

 

As much as this site is a beacon for information it seems more fitting for your garden variety gay provider that rarely fits the profile of that "exclusive,elusive,untouchable" type. Those guys are out there and want to do this but there is no effort or forums dedicated to it. Anyone have any info or know any resources?

Must you bring this subject again...

you forgot to mention your desire for a blue collar guy penniless and with a baby mama.

[hornymm]

You could try putting an ad on doublelist,memn seeking men,saying exactly what you want,and keep trying if it doesn't happen right away

[Guest davebk]

 @studchaser, We've tried to give suggestions before.  No one we suggest is real enough or straight enough for what you want.  

[sjmuktop]

"Real straight guys" don't have sex with other guys. 

This is not a realistic pursuit. 

Oh, and "every straight guy has his price" is a load of BS; it's just something that many sad, pathetic gay men convince themselves of because they want to cling on so badly to their fantasies of fucking straight guys (for whatever reason, this seems to be an unhealthy obsession for a lot of gay men).

 

[Kippy]

I disagree entirely. Over the years I've connected with 6 to 8 guys who I knew were totally straight.  Their motive for having sex with men was sometimes varied but usually was for quick cash.  Most were married with kids.  The guys I encountered were young (mid/late 20's) hot and fluid in the situation.  They were personable and performed very well.  All were great kissers and conversationalists.  Several of them I saw a number of times and then they moved on.  Great sex and great exeriences--low drama.

Kipp

[marylander1940]

34 minutes ago, davebk said:

 @studchaser, We've tried to give suggestions before.  No one we suggest is real enough or straight enough for what you want.  

and several PM on the subject about an underground net of really straight guys available because they're penniless and with a baby mama.

@studchaser do you still only hire straight guys because you're certain a gay escort will tape you to post it in his onlyfans account or blackmail you? 

[marylander1940]

17 minutes ago, Kippy said:

I disagree entirely. Over the years I've connected with 6 to 8 guys who I knew were totally straight.  Their motive for having sex with men was sometimes varied but usually was for quick cash.  Most were married with kids.  The guys I encountered were young (mid/late 20's) hot and fluid in the situation.  They were personable and performed very well.  All were great kissers and conversationalists.  Several of them I saw a number of times and then they moved on.  Great sex and great exeriences--low drama.

Kipp

6 to 8 guys over the years.

How many times have you hired "over the years" gay men from Rentboy, Rentmen and daddys? 

low drama? The opposite... sooner or later they turn ungrateful and resentful towards gay people and they're more likely to commit crimes. 

[John]

Didn't we used to call this "rough trade"?  Those seeking it looked in sleazy, working-class bars and truck stops.  Probably have to go to similar places now.

There can't be a web site for it, because no one self-identifies as "rough trade."  If you did, you wouldn't be.

 

[+ FrankR]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

Must you bring this subject again...

you forgot to mention your desire for a blue collar guy penniless and with a baby mama.

Wait, i saw that on Netflix just the other day! 😋

[marylander1940]

19 minutes ago, John said:

Didn't we used to call this "rough trade"?  Those seeking it looked in sleazy, working-class bars and truck stops.  Probably have to go to similar places now.

There can't be a web site for it, because no one self-identifies as "rough trade."  If you did, you wouldn't be.

 

 

[studchaser]

35 minutes ago, sjmuktop said:

"Real straight guys" don't have sex with other guys. 

This is not a realistic pursuit. 

Oh, and "every straight guy has his price" is a load of BS; it's just something that many sad, pathetic gay men convince themselves of because they want to cling on so badly to their fantasies of fucking straight guys (for whatever reason, this seems to be an unhealthy obsession for a lot of gay men).

 

I disagree and not out of delusion. Anyone who has been around real straight guys knows real straight wiring. Its hard to explain. If you have money your chances improve. If you have hundreds or thousands and all a straight guy has to do is kickback and get relief why would he not? Many female escorts who do everything are lesbians many men who provide services to wonen are gay(many of the guys on gigolos were clearly visibly gay imo). I think that debate is tired and actually has been put to bed. Gay men have been seducing straight men for all eternity 8n every society. Many ppl dont know the difference between sexual activity and sexual attraction and im not teaching psych 101 on here.

Alot of ppl with this attraction are probably attracted to the kinds of guys they first crushed on and never shifted to the gay type. Some ppl are more into pure physicality i.e. height,eye color,cock zlsize,etc thats all well and good but some ppl like the thrill of that authenticity factor and without it everything is meh. In a way its good not every gay man is into that because availability is low as it is.

[studchaser]

43 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

and several PM on the subject about an underground net of really straight guys available because they're penniless and with a baby mama.

@studchaser do you still only hire straight guys because you're certain a gay escort will tape you to post it in his onlyfans account or blackmail you? 

That is possible but not my most pressing concern. Although after Andrew Gillium incident not far fetched. My fantasy revolves around an attitude and a persona. Most gay escort ads literally say "masc," "dominant stud", *alpha hunk". It feels staged and performative. My brain can only judge them objectively i.e. nice skin,nice testh etc but i am not attracted. The same way you can show sone gay men many pictures of say black men or asian and no matter what they say they dont feel attraction. 

When you go to the zoo you wanna see the lions and the tigers. If you like masculinity you want the epitome. Its hard to argue straight men arent the standard bearers. Many look for gay men who can best represent that standard while some just want the real deal no filter.

 

 

[Philly50]

10 minutes ago, studchaser said:

all a straight guy has to do is kickback and get relief why would he not?

Because he's a 0 on the Kinsey scale? I'm a solid 6 (meaning exclusively gay), and I find the thought of getting a blow job from a female utterly repulsive. I doubt that I could do it for any amount of money even if I tried. I suspect an exclusively straight guy (0 on the scale) would feel the same about being done by a dude.

What you're probably looking for is some guy who is a 1 or 2 on the scale, that is, someone who is predominantly straight but isn't repulsed by sex with a guy or even kinda likes it on occasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

[+ 7829V]

1 hour ago, studchaser said:

I know from a marketing standpoint "straight" has lost its meaning. However i have come to find out that many super diacrete under the radar clients have said they ONLY book what in essence are unknown straight guys. Released military, ex athletes in hypermaculine sports(football,wrestling,hockey etc) , laid off blue collar,and even ex cons readjusting. Is anyone on here aware of these types of under the radar type guys? Or have you met men on sites that fit the bill?

 

As much as this site is a beacon for information it seems more fitting for your garden variety gay provider that rarely fits the profile of that "exclusive,elusive,untouchable" type. Those guys are out there and want to do this but there is no effort or forums dedicated to it. Anyone have any info or know any resources?

Yes, I've met several. Usually through work or friends. They identify as straight, but they are curious. All of them have been married with a woman or with girlfriends. All of them I've been the first guy they've approached for sex. Of course it starts slow (oral, kissing, massage, etc)... but after a few meetings it always ends up with anal (not always successfully) and they've always been the bottom. Works for me 😉

[lonely_john]

1 hour ago, hornymm said:

You could try putting an ad on doublelist,memn seeking men,saying exactly what you want,and keep trying if it doesn't happen right away

It rarely does. Lots of work for very little result. Craigslist was the only true platform where this was really easy to achieve.

[sjmuktop]

9 minutes ago, Philly50 said:

Because he's a 0 on the Kinsey scale? I'm a solid 6 (meaning exclusively gay), and I find the thought of getting a blow job from a female utterly repulsive. I doubt that I could do it for any amount of money even if I tried. I suspect an exclusively straight guy (0 on the scale) would feel the same about being done by a dude.

What you're probably looking for is some guy who is a 1 or 2 on the scale, that is, someone who is predominantly straight but isn't repulsed by sex with a guy or even kinda likes it on occasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Exactly. 

Zero's on the Kinsey Scale aren't just straight-identifying men, they are genuinely and exclusively straight. 

If the OP genuinely believes he's had sex with straight men, he can fool and delude himself all he wants. He's entitled to his fantasies and to believing what he wants to believe as long as it makes him happy and satisfies his sexual desires, kinks and interests. 

He may well have fucked with straight-identifying men, but objectively and genuinely straight they were not - or they wouldn't have been in bed with the OP. 

They were likely 1 or 2 on the Kinsey Scale as you say, but of course it goes without saying, that they were not exclusively straight (otherwise OP wouldn't have had any encounters with them).

By the way, I think your comment has totally destroyed his fantasy 😂

Edited July 30, 2021 by sjmuktop

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Y'know guys, if you keep feeding the troll, they never go away.

The OP has asked this question in so many ways, so many times, that now it's like a well-worn Laurel & Hardy routine.

[lonely_john]

1 hour ago, sjmuktop said:

"Real straight guys" don't have sex with other guys.

Not true. Straight guys won't have a romantic relationship with another man but in absence of pussy, they will take any reasonable offer especially if they are young, horny, in need of money, and want to knock their rocks off. Many don't mind getting a bj from a gay guy without any money involved. However, they would never penetrate a guy unless there is some sort of incentive involved.

1 hour ago, sjmuktop said:

"every straight guy has his price"

LOL, this is very true to some degree. Well off straight guys don't fit this, but surely those who are in financial needs do. Let's remember that the straight-gay dial is not a black and white division, it's rather a spectrum. That's why there are guys who identify as straight but curious. They are 80-90% straight and 20-10% gay or curious and will do stuff for the right price.

As an anecdote I know of one masseur who is popular among straight married men who go to see him not only because he's really good -and because masseuses don't have the same strength- but because eventually EVEN A MARRIED STRAIGHT MAN WILL PAY FOR TRYING SOMETHING NEW, even if it's just 1-time-off.

[studchaser]

21 minutes ago, Philly50 said:

Because he's a 0 on the Kinsey scale? I'm a solid 6 (meaning exclusively gay), and I find the thought of getting a blow job from a female utterly repulsive. I doubt that I could do it for any amount of money even if I tried. I suspect an exclusively straight guy (0 on the scale) would feel the same about being done by a dude.

What you're probably looking for is some guy who is a 1 or 2 on the scale, that is, someone who is predominantly straight but isn't repulsed by sex with a guy or even kinda likes it on occasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Ok i guess a 0 on kinsey wouldnt work. I doubt most gay men are 6 and straight men are zero. Maybe an opportunistic straight man. Lets use the prison example. Look how many straight guys who are tough hypermasculine engage in predatory sex as the dominant. I promise you those men do not belong to the gay community. All that "only gays have gay sex" is reductive and infantile. The issue is many gay men have co opted the straight designation so many other gay men continually observe these lines being blurred not knowing they are witnessing an imposter.

[sjmuktop]

2 minutes ago, lonely_john said:

Let's remember that the straight-gay dial is not a black and white division, it's rather a spectrum. That's why there are guys who identify as straight but curious. They are 80-90% straight and 20-10% gay or curious and will do stuff for the right price.

My point exactly. They're not 100%, genuinely and exclusively straight.

Thank you.

[marylander1940]

2 minutes ago, lonely_john said:

Not true. Straight guys won't have a romantic relationship with another man but in absence of pussy, they will take any reasonable offer especially if they are young, horny, in need of money, and want to knock their rocks off. Many don't mind getting a bj from a gay guy without any money involved. However, they would never penetrate a guy unless there is some sort of incentive involved.

LOL, this is very true to some degree. Well off straight guys don't fit this, but surely those who are in financial needs do. Let's remember that the straight-gay dial is not a black and white division, it's rather a spectrum. That's why there are guys who identify as straight but curious. They are 80-90% straight and 20-10% gay or curious and will do stuff for the right price.

As an anecdote I know of one masseur who is popular among straight married men who go to see him not only because he's really good -and because masseuses don't have the same strength- but because eventually EVEN A MARRIED STRAIGHT MAN WILL PAY FOR TRYING SOMETHING NEW, even if it's just 1-time-off.

in absence of pussy? 

They escort for the money...

MANY don't mind getting a bj? please they get pussy so easy now a days... "they would never penetrate a guy unless money is involved"

Too many rules in the way you see sexuality. 

If money is involved, they're doing it for the money. 

[sjmuktop]

1 minute ago, studchaser said:

Ok i guess a 0 on kinsey wouldnt work. 

That's right, it wouldn't.

So please drop this silly fantasy. 

I've been warned by others that you're a bit of a troll on these forums, and not to feed you. I'm going to heed that advise now. 

Have a nice day. 

[marylander1940]

9 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

Y'know guys, if you keep feeding the troll, they never go away.

The OP has asked this question in so many ways, so many times, that now it's like a well-worn Laurel & Hardy routine.

Ben:

They simply want to hire someone a young gay man can't have for free... that's a big part of the motivation! 

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

3 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Ben:

They simply want to hire someone a young gay man can't have for free... that's a big part of the motivation! 

 

... And let's not forget self-loathing.  A boatload of self-loathing.