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I have seen a college age guy from time to time as an escort. He is not really the kind of escort who advertises or has a lot of clients but sees people he meets off Grindr from time to time. He and I also chat from time to time outside of meeting up and in fact I helped him write his grad school essays. Recently he said he wanted to double his rate from the what I had been paying for a couple of years. He has fancy tastes in cars and expensive clothing and I suspect he has had a few people who pay a rather inflated rate for his time. Recently he has been texting me to get together(at the new rate) because he has gotten into some heavy debt and is kind of desperate.

Anyway I find the whole idea of paying someone twice the rate that you've had going on for years somewhat a turnoff. It's not like I gained a lot of weight or asked him to do anything wacko. Would you guys be turned off by this?

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I am a big believer in a free market. If you can charge more for your product and people will pay, then go ahead and charge the rate that the market will pay. However ... this is a relationship business and if you were one of the first people that helped him get started, I think that deserves a discount from the “new” rate. If he is adamant that it’s the new rate or nothing, then I suggest you move on. It will be his loss. 

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7 minutes ago, asdsrfr said:

I have seen a college age guy from time to time as an escort. He is not really the kind of escort who advertises or has a lot of clients but sees people he meets off Grindr from time to time. He and I also chat from time to time outside of meeting up and in fact I helped him write his grad school essays. Recently he said he wanted to double his rate from the what I had been paying for a couple of years. He has fancy tastes in cars and expensive clothing and I suspect he has had a few people who pay a rather inflated rate for his time. Recently he has been texting me to get together(at the new rate) because he has gotten into some heavy debt and is kind of desperate.

Anyway I find the whole idea of paying someone twice the rate that you've had going on for years somewhat a turnoff. It's not like I gained a lot of weight or asked him to do anything wacko. Would you guys be turned off by this?

Yes. I can understand rate increases that reflect higher costs of living, less need to make $ from providing, or adjusting to market price. But doubling the rate for an established client who has gone above and beyond the expectations of friendship? Don't think so 

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Double from what to what? $150 to $300? $200 to $400? $400 would be the top price for a very popular and talented escort. Why would you pay that amount for anyone who isn't top-notch? Do you live somewhere with little escort availability?

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5 hours ago, Leyte2019 said:

Yes. I can understand rate increases that reflect higher costs of living, less need to make $ from providing, or adjusting to market price. But doubling the rate for an established client who has gone above and beyond the expectations of friendship? Don't think so 

It appears that the escort is unappreciative for your being one of his first customers and for your help in his academia and ongoing association. 

The fact that he includes you at his increased rate that he plans to charge new clients does not speak well of him. 

He shows little, if any, appreciation for your long-term association. 

I believe in the old idiom where it says that unappreciative people are undeserving people.  Life is a two-way street, so to speak.  

Although it might be emotionally difficult to let him out of your life, the fact that he includes you at his new rate indicates you are nothing special to him.  

Good luck with a new find.  

 

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6 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Double from what to what? $150 to $300? $200 to $400? $400 would be the top price for a very popular and talented escort. Why would you pay that amount for anyone who isn't top-notch? Do you live somewhere with little escort availability?

From $200 to $400 and I live in an area where there are plenty of guys around.

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Its customary for workers to get cost of living increases periodically in their paychecks, so its not a turn-off for me.   However, everything in perspective, so it depends on the amount of increase and whether I feel the service is worth the increase.  Its a fair market so if the price is not right for you, move on to someone else.   But price increases in and of themselves is acceptable .    Would you want to remain on YOUR job forever without a pay raise ?  

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2 hours ago, asdsrfr said:

From $200 to $400 and I live in an area where there are plenty of guys around.

It looks more like he's testing for how much more he can keep you as a loyal client.

It sounds like you live in a city with a good number of providers, then the avg rate should be $250-$300.

$400 if he's really astonishing or has some qualities that are generating high demand to justify $400.

My honest advice if you value him as a provider and he values you as client is to negotiate something that would keep both of you happy - $300?

2 years of relationship shouldn't be thrown off the window just like that, but if it's the case, you said it yourself: "There are others in the market."

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19 hours ago, asdsrfr said:

I have seen a college age guy from time to time as an escort. He is not really the kind of escort who advertises or has a lot of clients but sees people he meets off Grindr from time to time. He and I also chat from time to time outside of meeting up and in fact I helped him write his grad school essays. Recently he said he wanted to double his rate from the what I had been paying for a couple of years. He has fancy tastes in cars and expensive clothing and I suspect he has had a few people who pay a rather inflated rate for his time. Recently he has been texting me to get together(at the new rate) because he has gotten into some heavy debt and is kind of desperate.

Anyway I find the whole idea of paying someone twice the rate that you've had going on for years somewhat a turnoff. It's not like I gained a lot of weight or asked him to do anything wacko. Would you guys be turned off by this?

He can ask whatever he wants but with that lifestyle he'll retire with nothing saved. 

If you care about him move on and tell him to get his shit together. 

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I don't understand why loyal, longtime clients feel that they should be grandfathered in at the old rate.  Businesses increase their prices all the time.  As a regular, longtime customer at some places, I can't say that I'm happy about the increases, but I don't expect the business to make an exception for me either.

As for this escort's "inflated" rate, his recent rate increase is only "inflated" if not enough clients are willing to pay it.  If he's getting the amount of business he wants at the higher rate, then it's not inflated -- it's right for the market.  If he's not getting enough business, then he'll (hopefully) figure it out & adjust accordingly. 

In either case, decide for yourself if he's worth the higher rate, or not.  If indeed your area has plenty of other providers who charge less, find one or a few you like & move on.  It's just business.  When a client expects an exception to be made for him because of past history or a nice off-the-clock relationship, he's making it personal.

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3 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

He can ask whatever he wants but with that lifestyle he'll retire with nothing saved. 

If you care about him move on and tell him to get his shit together. 

Isn't he a young guy? How many young people save money, no matter the profession?

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24 minutes ago, BSR said:

 

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When a client expects an exception to be made for him because of past history or a nice off-the-clock relationship, he's making it personal.

It is personal.  

It is also a form of greed and/or naivete on the part of the escort.  

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3 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

It is personal.  

It is also a form of greed and/or naivete on the part of the escort.  

Apparently you & I view the escort-client relationship very differently.  I'm a bit baffled by your statement "It is personal."  How?  The escort provides a service; the client pays him for that service.  Granted, the escort provides physical intimacy and sometimes sessions involve emotional intimacy as well, but in the end, if you're paying for the escort's services, it's business.  It was nice of the OP to help the escort out with his grad school essays, but unless the OP stated up front he expected compensation for his help, then all the escort owes him is a heartfelt thank you.

Greed?  If an employee quits his old job to take a higher-paying job elsewhere, is that greed?  To me, that's just being smart and knowing your worth.  My old boss can call me greedy all he wants, I'm still taking the higher pay.  I would expect anyone in any line of work to do the same, including escorts.  As for naivete, the escort is naive only if he's not getting enough business at the higher rate.  The OP mentioned that he thinks a few clients are paying the higher rate.  If "a few" is enough for the escort, I would say the escort is a smart businessman.

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Had a similar situation except that the rate was well above market for the city (New Orleans) at the time.  Had a great initial encounter, and I planned to see him about every four weeks, whereas I would have seen another escort at the then-prevailing rate about every three weeks.

 

He texted me the next week asking when we could get together again.  I told him in about four weeks.  He asked why not sooner.  I told him that I would be happy to pay his rate but that would mean simply mean we would meet every four weeks.

He proceeded to immediately drop his rate 40% (to an amount BELOW) the then-prevailing rate.  We met about every two weeks for several years until he returned to his homeland of Thailand.

If this guy has run up debt, you may find considerable flexibility over it, and by agreeing to pay it and meet half as often as you once did, he may decide the way to maximize revenue is through more frequent meetings at a lower rate.

Just my perspective, but if you’re happy with him, I say pay his rate and set up meetings half as often as you used to.  As folk have said, “Supply and demand,” well you certainly have a say-so in just how much demand you have for the services he provides at whatever price he chooses to charge.

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1 hour ago, BSR said:

I don't understand why loyal, longtime clients feel that they should be grandfathered in at the old rate.  Businesses increase their prices all the time.  As a regular, longtime customer at some places, I can't say that I'm happy about the increases, but I don't expect the business to make an exception for me either.

As for this escort's "inflated" rate, his recent rate increase is only "inflated" if not enough clients are willing to pay it.  If he's getting the amount of business he wants at the higher rate, then it's not inflated -- it's right for the market.  If he's not getting enough business, then he'll (hopefully) figure it out & adjust accordingly. 

In either case, decide for yourself if he's worth the higher rate, or not.  If indeed your area has plenty of other providers who charge less, find one or a few you like & move on.  It's just business.  When a client expects an exception to be made for him because of past history or a nice off-the-clock relationship, he's making it personal.

I think you've made a very good point here, but I can also see how any sudden, substantial increase in a donation amount would be jarring - especially when the provider has been helped along the way by the OP.  However, the provider may have kept his donation at a lower level longer than he would have otherwise.  Does the OP know if the donation amount increased for everyone at once, across the board? Or had it been higher for others already, with the OP's amount kept lower to reflect the help he had given?  In any case, I'm thinking it would be good to be open with the provider and honestly tell him the increase came as a shock.  Perhaps he'll reconsider, or find other ways of demonstrating the OP's importance to him.

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2 hours ago, BSR said:

Apparently you & I view the escort-client relationship very differently.  I'm a bit baffled by your statement "It is personal."  How?  The escort provides a service; the client pays him for that service.  Granted, the escort provides physical intimacy and sometimes sessions involve emotional intimacy as well, but in the end, if you're paying for the escort's services, it's business.  It was nice of the OP to help the escort out with his grad school essays, but unless the OP stated up front he expected compensation for his help, then all the escort owes him is a heartfelt thank you.

Greed?  If an employee quits his old job to take a higher-paying job elsewhere, is that greed?  To me, that's just being smart and knowing your worth.  My old boss can call me greedy all he wants, I'm still taking the higher pay.  I would expect anyone in any line of work to do the same, including escorts.  As for naivete, the escort is naive only if he's not getting enough business at the higher rate.  The OP mentioned that he thinks a few clients are paying the higher rate.  If "a few" is enough for the escort, I would say the escort is a smart businessman.

Reasonable people can disagree. 

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We're at a point right now where demand, choices, and pricing are all over the board because of the pandemic and lockdown. It won't settle back exactly as it was. 

Reno Gold makes $100K a month on OnlyFans and J_rod makes $20K a month on Chaterbate just leaving his cam on all day and chatting to lonely guys while he plays video games in his clothes. Neither has sex. And there are plenty of massuers online who just give amatuer non-sex massages. It's amazing there's so many guys who haven't latched onto the digital or fantasy obsessive hustles and still do "the deed". $300 is peanuts for anyone with imagination. That, roaring inflation and the enormous number of new millionaires make sex more expensive. I don't advise any of my guys to go that digital route I guess because I'm selfish. But yes, rates have gone up. A lot of ordinary clients have saved up a lot of money during the lockdown and are blowing it (!) as fast as possible now just as much of the supply has gone to digital pastures or otherwise not been on the market. It may land back like it was, or it may not. My guess is higher rates. 

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5 hours ago, WilliamM said:

Isn't he a young guy? How many young people save money, no matter the profession?

When I first had a steady job, during my medical residency, I saved $2000 a year, the most one could then save, into an IRA account (ages 25, 26, 27). I've kept that money in a separate account, which I had to do because that IRA money, unlike my subsequent donations, was a deductible IRA. That account's worth well over $60,000 already, and I don't plan to tap into it for at least another decade. Not a massive sum, but just shows what compounding can do. 

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I have no issue with people who provide services instituting cost of living increases yearly or so. In no universe since the 80s have prices for living doubled year over year. No one I know who owns a service based business has ever doubled a fee year over year. I'd politely explain his new rate is too rich for me and if he comes back with a compromise rate, go from there.

 

 

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