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Yeah I know the admins were saying they were going to work on getting it back up. Although if no new reviews are ever going to be added is there really a point? It'd still have some fresh reviews but quickly be full of guys who don't escort anymore, old pics, old info. And I know the option was there to have escorts contact Daddy to challenge a review or have info changed and not being able to do that anymore is actually not fair to them.

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The site data has been copied over but unless I buy another domain and forward it, there is not a way to bring it online until we get control of DNS. Team Washington is in Vegas working on that and a few other things this week.

 

Do you want to get a sense about how much support there is for bringing it back up from the people here before buying that domain?

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Do you want to get a sense about how much support there is for bringing it back up from the people here before buying that domain?

I’m personally very interested in recovering it. It’s what drove the most interest to this forum. It’s part of our history/heritage and I think if I can set it up right, it will be as much work to maintain as moderating an individual forum.

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Although I did contribute several reviews, to me the forum has grown to be much more important than the review site. I would be bummed if DaddyReviews got taken down but I would be devastated if I could no longer access this community on the forum.

I doubt you're alone in that sentiment, but the review site is how I found the forum and I know I'm not alone. (I have only written one review of a now-retired escort.) Having the review site still operating would likely ensure the continued flow of members to the forum, thereby keeping the discussions here vibrant for longer, and providing a larger pool of potential donors if donations are a part of its future. Rob thinks it won't be too difficult to achieve so I'm all for him to continue the effort to revive it.

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I’m personally very interested in recovering it. It’s what drove the most interest to this forum. It’s part of our history/heritage and I think if I can set it up right, it will be as much work to maintain as moderating an individual forum.

As I said earlier, this sounds like a good plan. An aside, however, on what maintaining it would look like. I think the practice of it being a review site and not a debate-about-reviews site that applied when Daddy was in charge needs to continue. The client gets to write his (or her) review, the escort has the right of reply and that's it. Reviewers don't get to continue the debate. Should a client have the role of moderating that?

 

There is one feature that RM offers (not that it is taken up all that often) that I think the review site would benefit from, and that is for escorts to make any sort of reply, not just a rebuttal (pun not intended). The thank yous and comments escorts make on reviews can offer insights into their personalities and help persuade readers to hire them. (Or not, but that's within their control.)

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I’m personally very interested in recovering it. It’s what drove the most interest to this forum. It’s part of our history/heritage and I think if I can set it up right, it will be as much work to maintain as moderating an individual forum.

 

I said this on a different thread but let me repeat it here as an issue to think about. Right now Google "Daddy's Reviews" and see what you get. You'll see a bunch of dead links to individual escort review pages, if you get what I get. Google any of those names and you'll get websites for escorts. This process took me about 60 seconds.

 

We don't know when or even if this goes through probate. There is a small estate exemption in Nevada, so that may or may not apply. Another member pointed out, correctly I think, that the more time a probate judge or staff administrator looks into this, the more possible trouble. So all of this falls into the "we don't know" wild card category, but we should include it in our planning.

 

I'll make a simple pro and con case, both of which make some sense to me.

 

The con case is that we don't want that site easily available when it goes through probate. I think what @mature_guy said is right. The site had not been updated since Bill fell ill. So whatever short-term hit it's taken is done.

 

The pro side is the sooner we get it back up the better. The site is how a community of escorts make their income. It's also something people can get involved in now.

 

Here's another thing to factor in, to vastly oversimply it. This site runs itself. The escort review website doesn't.

 

The idea that this site runs itself has been stated a lot. I think it's basically true - if you factor in that the site has very capable moderators who've been around a long time. It's even more true today because I note several new moderators have been added to the list. Congrats and thanks!!!!! :)

 

The escort website was a one man show. So basically just to keep it exactly the same we need to do a lot of things Bill did solo. I'm guessing we won't ever know exactly what Bill did in terms of his processes. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure from what lots of clients told me over a period of years they weren't particularly pleased with the process, regardless. A few people have stated that in posts already. I personally think it would make sense to start by asking for input, which @mike carey got the ball rolling on, on what we would like the site to be in the future. Escorts who use it to make their income would probably have a lot of input to offer as well.

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I said this on a different thread but let me repeat it here as an issue to think about. Right now Google "Daddy's Reviews" and see what you get. You'll see a bunch of dead links to individual escort review pages, if you get what I get. Google any of those names and you'll get websites for escorts. This process took me about 60 seconds.

 

We don't know when or even if this goes through probate. There is a small estate exemption in Nevada, so that may or may not apply. Another member pointed out, correctly I think, that the more time a probate judge or staff administrator looks into this, the more possible trouble. So all of this falls into the "we don't know" wild card category, but we should include it in our planning.

 

I'll make a simple pro and con case, both of which make some sense to me.

 

The con case is that we don't want that site easily available when it goes through probate. I think what @mature_guy said is right. The site had not been updated since Bill fell ill. So whatever short-term hit it's taken is done.

 

The pro side is the sooner we get it back up the better. The site is how a community of escorts make their income. It's also something people can get involved in now.

 

Here's another thing to factor in, to vastly oversimply it. This site runs itself. The escort review website doesn't.

 

The idea that this site runs itself has been stated a lot. I think it's basically true - if you factor in that the site has very capable moderators who've been around a long time. It's even more true today because I note several new moderators have been added to the list. Congrats and thanks!!!!! :)

 

The escort website was a one man show. So basically just to keep it exactly the same we need to do a lot of things Bill did solo. I'm guessing we won't ever know exactly what Bill did in terms of his processes. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure from what lots of clients told me over a period of years they weren't particularly pleased with the process, regardless. A few people have stated that in posts already. I personally think it would make sense to start by asking for input, which @mike carey got the ball rolling on, on what we would like the site to be in the future. Escorts who use it to make their income would probably have a lot of input to offer as well.

When I google "Daddy's Reviews" the first thing that comes up is yelp reviews for Daddy's Barbershop in San Francisco, followed by several other businesses with "Daddy" in their name. Nothing in the first three pages pointing to Bill's site. So I guess it depends where you are when you do the search.

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Anyone having problems accessing daddysreviews? I’m getting the following error since yesterday:

 

 

An Error Was Encountered

Unable to load your default controller. Please make sure the controller specified in your Routes.php file is valid.

 

Click "Daddy" to return to the site

 

seems to be back to normal but it was off for almost a week...

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When I google "Daddy's Reviews" the first thing that comes up is yelp reviews for Daddy's Barbershop in San Francisco, followed by several other businesses with "Daddy" in their name. Nothing in the first three pages pointing to Bill's site. So I guess it depends where you are when you do the search.

 

you can always type www.daddysreviews.com and will take you to Daddy's Reviews - Terms of Service (m4m-forum.org)

 

archive M4M forum . org

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So I've been able to make a few changes to support any of the old direct URLs. If someone had a bookmark to a specific URL such as:

 

https://www.daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest/dominus_oakland

 

It will be automatically kicked to the new URL automatically

 

https://archive.m4m-forum.org/cruise/newest/dominus_oakland

 

This redirect only works as long as Daddy's server is online until we manage to get control of DNS which is something Team Washington is working on.

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When I google "Daddy's Reviews" the first thing that comes up is yelp reviews for Daddy's Barbershop in San Francisco, followed by several other businesses with "Daddy" in their name. Nothing in the first three pages pointing to Bill's site. So I guess it depends where you are when you do the search.

 

I'm getting different results today than I did when I posted that, as well. It depends on how I type the words. If I type in "Daddysreviews" I get links.

 

It's a moot point because as @RadioRob said the site is back up. In the short term, it's better for escorts if the site is up. In the long term, I go back to what what @mature_guy said about some probate judge or staff administrator in Nevada poking around things.

 

Whatever the short term or intermediate term solution is, the long term solution should involve a community plan around the legal and political risks involved. And the options vary. We could say we should be 100 % defensive since we can't do a thing. That lends itself to the idea that the reviews actually say as little as possible. That will make a lot of people here unhappy I suspect. Bill might say, "So what?" There's a 100 % offense strategy that says that we can use a revitalized website to gradually drive the debate and move toward a goal of not having to worry about 100 % defense. My perception is Bill tried to do some of both. But, like Jeffrey, he was politically isolated. That's a bad place to be in a situation like this. Short term, it does have an immediate and direct impact in terms of what people can actually say in those reviews. Long term, there's this huge decriminalization coalition and it doesn't make sense that this big community built around the largest escort review site in the US, I think, doesn't have a clue what they are up to. Or where our interests intersect.

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