Do you prefer your escort to host, and if they can’t: what’s the alternative?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

A previous post in another thread, got me thinking of this. It seems to be an age old dilemma, but I’m just curious. It seems like the days of cruising parks and beaches for sex were for the purpose of finding someone, but not so much as because one or both parties couldn’t host.

 

In this biz, it seems like more and more clients are wanting me to host. Idk if that’s due in part to my current market, but it seemed like back in 2008-2009ish, it was much easier to just offer outcalls and still be able to make a decent earning. Most were at hotels, while a few were at their places.

 

However, I find nowadays the majority of my bookings (mainly seeming to be the middle America cities) want me to host. Which is no harm no foul. I like my ambience and set up. But the issue comes because there are weeks/weekends, where I’ll want to spend a week or 2 with friends or family in their hometowns. I even alternate living arrangements currently between 2 cities. One of which, makes it difficult to host because it’s so far outside of the city. When I host it has to be carefully planned: advance notice and deposit usually. And majority of the guys contacting can’t seem to manage doing that, for the world. And it is very frustrating. I usually end up missing appointments all week long until someone can either host or book with more than 10 minutes notice.

 

My thing is: why does this even need to be an issue? I would think if a client is looking to have some fun time with a particular provider, and can’t host from his home: He would go to the nearest hotel and spend $60-80 on a place to host (assuming it’s not New York or Seattle hotel rates). But even then. I don’t understand the increasingly expectation that the escort can host. I understand there’s likely a plethora of valid reasons that a client can’t host...but again, the options for hotels are there.

 

Usually when I end up hosting in my home town, I end up with just 1 client that day. So if I’m already spending on a room, that’s a big chunk out of my donation. A 250 session can be more like earning 150. And any less than that, it only leaves 100 or less. Not worth it. So sometimes I’ll just say I can’t host or won’t host unless they book a full service or 2 hour visit.

 

It makes it even worse when a client says, “well don’t get a room just for me”. But then they can’t host either. It just boggles me at times. If it mattered that much, they should be willing to furnish the accommodations. I know of a guy who would have me drive to his town outside of the city, he would get the hotel for me or pay me on top of my donation. Then he’d leave and let me keep it. Not the expected scenario, but certainly an ideal one.

 

Adversely, many seem to essentially dismiss an escort who doesn’t host.

Edited April 17, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ JEC]

I can never host, so need an alternative. If a client is playing on the DL (as many do), getting a hotel can leave a paper trail that they are trying to avoid, so a provider that hosts is the perfect solution. The paper trail can be solved by getting a rechargeable credit card to get a hotel room, that's a lot of logistics to manage (assuming you need to use cash to charge to card). In higher priced markets affordable hotels can be found on Hotwire; dayuse is another alternative. Traveling providers almost always have a hotel, so that is one solution. It's all about discretion and not leaving a paper trail.....in many cases.

[+ Reisr30]

I prefer to host. I need to have had multiple meetings with a provider and feel very comfortable with him before I’ll consider an incall

[MiamiLooker]

I can't speak from personal experience because I only host and only hire local providers, but if neither me or the escort could host, I would simply look to hire an escort that could host.

[Wolfer]

For me it's simply because when the escort hosts it's always the cheaper option. If I book a hotel room I'm literally doubling the cost, with the price for the hotel and the upcharge for an outcall (all escorts where I live offer lower prices for incalls). There's no real "cheap" hotel options where I hire. Booking a hotel room is often the same price as 1 hour incall.

 

Also I don't really like the idea of an unknown escort (or hookups in general) to know my home address.

 

Do you offer a lower rate for outcalls? This would be one way to attract more clients who are able to host.

[cany10011]

For me, i prefer to have the escort visit me at my place. I feel that after a de-stressing and relaxing escort session, the last thing I want to do is to rushing out after a quick shower and change. I know escorts charge more for outcalls, but it is about convenience and comfort for me.

[harlow]

For me it's simply because when the escort hosts it's always the cheaper option. If I book a hotel room I'm literally doubling the cost, with the price for the hotel and the upcharge for an outcall (all escorts where I live offer lower prices for incalls). There's no real "cheap" hotel options where I hire. Booking a hotel room is often the same price as 1 hour incall.

 

Also I don't really like the idea of an unknown escort (or hookups in general) to know my home address.

 

Do you offer a lower rate for outcalls? This would be one way to attract more clients who are able to host.

 

I'm kinda the same way. If I’m traveling it doesn’t matter to me because I already have a hotel. However when I’m hiring locally it’s cheaper and more convenient for me if the provider can host. Also getting a hotel just to meet a provider and having him potentially flake on me is something I’m always thinking about.

[+ Pensant]

I tend to prefer hosting and have for years. Fortunately, I’ve never had any problems. I really like to control the environment and I have a very comfortable place. If I host at a hotel when traveling, it’s generally an overnight. I wouldn’t feel comfortable visiting a provider in a hotel, especially for a shorter session. I’ve also never encountered a difference between incall and outcall rates.

[+ jrhoutex]

I host when I travel. I host in my home town only for providers that I have seen before and have established a connection.

[Islesguy]

If I'm traveling, I can host or not since I already have a hotel room. At home, I'm about an hour one way by train from the city. Knowing how few people who live in the city are willing to travel to where I live, no matter how convenient, it's just not worth the hassle of trying to find someone I'm interested in hiring and willing to come out. Of course, the fact I have roommates would make it impossible to bring people to me. Since I like going into the city anyway, if a guy flakes on me, I can hit a museum or something and not waste day.

[+ keroscenefire]

Back when I was living with my parents when I first started this hobby, I'd host at a bathhhouse. But with COVID I don't think that's as much of an option anymore. Depending on where you live there can be some pretty cheap hotels. If you look at some of these apps like Hotels Tonight or Hotels.Com you can find many sub $100 a night options. I just did a long road trip and while most of the hotels were in more rural areas, I found a nice place in Oakland for only $90 a night. When I visited NYC last Labor Day weekend, I found a hotel in Queens for $75. With not much business travel happening, and even tourist business somewhat limited, you might be surprised by the rates you'll find now in even typically "expensive" cities.

[jtwalker]

Whether me ir the provider, I prefer a hotel host. Just seems safer.

[Guest]

I usually look for escorts who do in-calls, unless I'm traveling. I recently moved to western Hollywood, so it's less of a problem now, but I used to live in the suburbs of the SF area, and the cost of getting an escort to me was prohibitive. Unless one lives in the thick of things, in-calls are usually the only realistic option unless one is traveling. Now that I live in the hills above WeHo, an escort could come to me, but I'd rather not have someone I don't know come directly to my house.

Another issue is that some escorts put either fake or really outdated photos on their ads. It's much easier to bow out gracefully if the escort is either in his place, or in the lobby of a hotel. I'm guessing most clients would prefer escorts who do in-calls. Any escort who can't offer in-calls will certainly lose a certain chunk of business. How big a chunk probably depends on location, but I suspect it would probably be at least 50% in many places. When I lived in the SF Bay Area, I can only remember twice when an escort so moved me that I was willing to buy a hotel room for the meeting (one of those times was that hunky Brazilian whose name slips my mind, but maybe someone will remember for me).

If I were an escort who was serious with his business, I would try to do whatever I could to be able to arrange for in-calls. For many clients, out-calls just simply can't work out.

[+ Charlie]

I always preferred an escort who could host, simply because that made it easier for me to just leave if things did not go smoothly.

[+ WilliamM]

I prefer to host because I no longer have a car.

Edited April 17, 2021 by WilliamM

[FrancisCA]

As a provider I love hosting! Whether it be in my apartment in Hollywood or going to them! I dont have a car so i do prefer hosting

[Jarrod_Uncut]

As a provider I love hosting! Whether it be in my apartment in Hollywood or going to them! I dont have a car so i do prefer hosting

 

I prefer to host because I no longer have a car.

 

I can understand that 100%. Especially in places like DC or other metro areas where outcalls would be a production of sorts. However, there been times I've gone to DC and EVERYONE the entire trip wanted me to come to them. Which was fine because, I could stay at a friend's hotel while his company was paying for a convention, or stay in a run of mill hotel in Maryland or Virginia that I would be a little embarrassed to host in lol.

[HoleTrainer]

I always try to charge enough so that I can afford to host out of the cost of my fee. Sure, some guys will balk at the higher price, but I find that I have a better success rate with simply using the price point as the filter than with itemizing the cost of hosting. If guys try to talk me down on the price then I will break down the cost of hosting to them to explain why I have to charge so much... if I'm in a patient mood.

[rvwnsd]

I am happy to host escorts or travel to them. It's really up to them. I have a comfortable apartment and am always happy to have company. At the same time, I have a car so if the guy prefers company I can do that, too. Same thing when travelling. I can host but am happy to travel if I have a car or their place is accessible via transit or uber. One guy I hired was staying in the same hotel as I was, so that was very convenient.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Another issue is that some escorts put either fake or really outdated photos on their ads. It's much easier to bow out gracefully if the escort is either in his place, or in the lobby of a hotel.

 

If I were an escort who was serious with his business, I would try to do whatever I could to be able to arrange for in-calls. For many clients, out-calls just simply can't work out.

 

Well recall I did make a post about an attempted 3 way session, where the other escort wasn’t wanting to do the service that the client wanted after being lowballed... the bowing out by the client certainly wasn’t graceful.

 

I’m more than willing to accommodate clients for incalls. But the issue also tends to be, “oh I can’t meet at that time, I have (insert various excuse as to why they can’t meet at the time I suggest). So it’s like, not only can they not host, but they want someone to host at the times it’s convenient for them.

 

That said, I don’t negate the benefit of having ones own incall place. I actually used be brainwashed that having a car was more important than having your own place. But nowadays, it seems you increase your chances of hooking up if you have your own place... even if you don’t have a personal vehicle. Because many guys can’t host, even open and out gay men.

 

I even know some guys who live alone, and purposely don’t “host” because their living quarters aren’t fit for 2 men to meet and have sex. Whenever I’ve had my own place, I always designed it with an extra person in mind, just in case ?

[down_to_business]

It's definitely a safety/trust issue for me. I have to feel really comfortable with an escort to host them at my own residence. I do host at my hotel when travelling. For this reason, I prefer to travel to an escort when meeting in my home town. If the escort cannot host, it would depend on how bad I wanted to see him as to whether or not I would get my own hotel room. It kind of seems a little wasteful to me to do so over a 1 hour meeting, but I have.

 

Immediately after my attempted blackmail experience (several years ago), after a long break from this hobby, I used to book a second hotel when travelling just to meet with an escort so they wouldn't know where I was really staying (yes I know, silly.. but I was scared!)

[kingsley88]

Back when I was living with my parents when I first started this hobby, I'd host at a bathhhouse. But with COVID I don't think that's as much of an option anymore.

 

That was a fantasy of mine to meet in a bathhouse (though act like we were both there looking at first before going off together, go to the steam room, dark maze, etc.) lol.

 

In Brazil (and probably the same in other places), I read someplace it's safer to go to the gay bathhouse and rent a room there for X mins for security reasons.

 

Immediately after my attempted blackmail experience (several years ago), after a long break from this hobby, I used to book a second hotel when travelling just to meet with an escort so they wouldn't know where I was really staying (yes I know, silly.. but I was scared!)

 

Sorry to hear about the blackmail experience. Glad you're back in the hobby though.

[Islesguy]

I always try to charge enough so that I can afford to host out of the cost of my fee. Sure, some guys will balk at the higher price, but I find that I have a better success rate with simply using the price point as the filter than with itemizing the cost of hosting. If guys try to talk me down on the price then I will break down the cost of hosting to them to explain why I have to charge so much... if I'm in a patient mood.

I much prefer this method pricing. I hate nickel and diming over every little thing. It's no different than what airlines have done. Up your price $100 or whatever and bring back all the benefits of coach air travel from days gone by.

[+ Coolwave35]

That was a fantasy of mine to meet in a bathhouse (though act like we were both there looking at first before going off together, go to the steam room, dark maze, etc.) lol.

 

I have done this on multiple occasions and I highly recommend it. I often will save it for a 2nd or 3rd meeting. “I want you to walk in in sweatpants and a tank top. Walk around the whole place, make sure everyone sees you, then come back and pick me and make sure as many people as possible notice that you’re picking me.” Sooooo fun.

 

As for the original topic, I will only host. I had one negative experience early on in my hiring where the provider was an obvious drug user that was squatting in a home that was under construction. The contractors showed up as our session was beginning. I had sensed trouble and was talking my way out of the meeting. We were barely 5 minutes in and I was trying hard to leave and he was getting increasingly confrontational looking for his fee. After we were chased out he followed me to my car and I gave him $60 to leave me alone. I’ve never felt so unsafe and vowed to only do in calls or public places from then on.

[Bucky]

I just like to see their decorating style and what's in their fridge.