How do you feel about the quality of connecting with other escorts?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

To start: I don’t refer necessarily to the interactions between providers on the board, or the annual meetups/luncheons that go on...because these are coordinated events where people have the opportunity to connect as a group in a public setting, versus 2 individuals in a private space. I think it’s beneficial resource to have.

 

I used to be more optimistic about cultivating friendships/connections with other male escorts in real life, but I’m starting to realize I really don’t care to anymore. I finally start to see why guys like the former Micheal Vincenzo (think I got it right?) who I’d chatted with, told me he only sticks to clients when he travels.

 

I’m just finding many of my last couple meetups with another escort 1 on 1, have just had no depth beyond the video we shot. 1 guy, I’ve known him as a bartender for years, he rushed thru our video shoot, and was dashing off to a client the minute we finished. I also suggested he come to the chic air bnb spot I had, with ample natural lighting and “props”...yet he wanted to call the shots on the whole scene, meeting at his hotel (is it just me, or does anyone else feel like hotel backgrounds cheapens the porn? One video, it was obvious they used a courtyard Mariott) with dim lighting and probably thin walls to boot.

 

There was also another guy I linked up with, who we’d been trying to fuck for awhile...but he was always pushy and kinda condescending about it, and admitted he was “sober” now, but we finally did. And it was great. Except afterwards, he just completely went MIA. Not sure what it was, but whatever it was I wouldn’t know.

 

So fast forward to this weekend, there was another escort guy in town who we’d previously tried to meet as well. But he seemed kind of sketchy, so I never went thru with it. This was time I was like, let me not be judgmental about other sex workers. But once again, it was just a mess. The agreement was to shoot a video. But then he tells me can we do it without our faces in it. Before that it took him 4-5 hours to respond back about meeting up. At this point I’m like, I’m not even about to leave my house to meet him, because that’s just inconsiderate.

 

So I told him today, I really haven’t been meeting a lot of other guys in the biz lately. Not to mention, at the end of the day, we are competition. We can pretend to look at it like we’re not, but fact of the matter is, we are. How can sit and be cheesing (smiling) and grinning and doing freebie hookups, with a guy who may have very well offered full service for $100 to one of my potential clients? Not to say that I should be mad about it, but how does that benefit our interaction?

 

Going back to the other guy I knew as a bartender, there’s been a couple times we’ve been in the same city. Most every conversation is, “I have a client scheduled at this, this, and that time.” Like, why do I need to know everytime you have a client? How is that supposed to make me feel inspired, if I’m maybe had a slow or bad day/week, or just not in a position to take calls. It doesn’t. I find some escort guys, that’s the bulk of what they talk about. The last client, and the next client. And I just don’t find that conducive to me at all.

 

Maybe I’m tripping, but part of me feels like some interactions I have begun to outgrow. Not to sound selfish, but if there doesn’t seem to be a purpose or foundation for me in a certain interaction...I almost don’t see the reason.

Edited April 6, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jamie21]

I think I know what you mean. I’ve a couple of friends who escort and those meets are great, we fuck (usually filming for justforfans etc) or just for the fun of it, have coffee, chat about the work or anything and it’s great. But when I’ve got together with other guys who work in the business they’re often flaky and random with responses and arrangements similar to what you describe Jarrod.

 

I think that for many guys working as escorts the life is chaotic and unstructured. They don’t approach it as a business which means they don’t make plans or have schedules, everything is ad-hoc. The next client may call and so if they’ve committed themselves to something already then they’d miss the client, so everything ends up being provisional just in case a client books. The business forces this approach because of the way clients book...I’m horny I’ll book a guy to turn up in the next hour...that means escorts have to be ready at short notice a lot of the time.

 

I never take those 2am calls where they ask for me to be available now, but I can see how if you’re in need of the money you’d end up taking bookings like that and live a random type of schedule.

 

Because I’m great friends with a few escorts (and work with them too if clients book us together) then I always hope that a similar friendship can be built with new escorts I meet but I’ve no great expectations. I think you’re right. The job is difficult and it makes you quite transactional in relationships if you’re not careful.

[Milo Farnsworth]

To start: I don’t refer necessarily to the interactions between providers on the board, or the annual meetups/luncheons that go on...because these are coordinated events where people have the opportunity to connect as a group in a public setting, versus 2 individuals in a private space. I think it’s beneficial resource to have.

 

I used to be more optimistic about cultivating friendships/connections with other male escorts in real life, but I’m starting to realize I really don’t care to anymore. I finally start to see why guys like the former Micheal Vincenzo (think I got it right?) who I’d chatted with, told me he only sticks to clients when he travels.

 

I’m just finding many of my last couple meetups with another escort 1 on 1, have just had no depth beyond the video we shot. 1 guy, I’ve known him as a bartender for years, he rushed thru our video shoot, and was dashing off to a client the minute we finished. I also suggested he come to the chic air bnb spot I had, with ample natural lighting and “props”...yet he wanted to call the shots on the whole scene, meeting at his hotel (is it just me, or does anyone else feel like hotel backgrounds cheapens the porn? One video, it was obvious they used a courtyard Mariott) with dim lighting and probably thin walls to boot.

 

There was also another guy I linked up with, who we’d been trying to fuck for awhile...but he was always pushy and kinda condescending about it, and admitted he was “sober” now, but we finally did. And it was great. Except afterwards, he just completely went MIA. Not sure what it was, but whatever it was I wouldn’t know.

 

So fast forward to this weekend, there was another escort guy in town who we’d previously tried to meet as well. But he seemed kind of sketchy, so I never went thru with it. This was time I was like, let me not be judgmental about other sex workers. But once again, it was just a mess. The agreement was to shoot a video. But then he tells me can we do it without our faces in it. Before that it took him 4-5 hours to respond back about meeting up. At this point I’m like, I’m not even about to leave my house to meet him, because that’s just inconsiderate.

 

So I told him today, I really haven’t been meeting a lot of other guys in the biz lately. Not to mention, at the end of the day, we are competition. We can pretend to look at it like we’re not, but fact of the matter is, we are. How can sit and be cheesing (smiling) and grinning and doing freebie hookups, with a guy who may have very well offered full service for $100 to one of my potential clients? Not to say that I should be mad about it, but how does that benefit our interaction?

 

Going back to the other guy I knew as a bartender, there’s been a couple times we’ve been in the same city. Most every conversation is, “I have a client scheduled at this, this, and that time.” Like, why do I need to know everytime you have a client? How is that supposed to make me feel inspired, if I’m maybe had a slow or bad day/week, or just not in a position to take calls. It doesn’t. I find some escort guys, that’s the bulk of what they talk about. The last client, and the next client. And I just don’t find that conducive to me at all.

 

Maybe I’m tripping, but part of me feels like some interactions I have begun to outgrow. Not to sound selfish, but if there doesn’t seem to be a purpose or foundation for me in a certain interaction...I almost don’t see the reason.

 

Wait a minute. Michael Vincenzo is still escorting? Where can I find him?

[big-n-tall]

Wait a minute. Michael Vincenzo is still escorting? Where can I find him?

 

He retired years ago. I talked to him maybe a year or two after he did. He confirmed he was retired and quite content.

[Milo Farnsworth]

Oh dang! Okay thanks!

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Wait a minute. Michael Vincenzo is still escorting? Where can I find him?

 

He retired years ago. I talked to him maybe a year or two after he did. He confirmed he was retired and quite content.

 

That’s right. And that’s why I referenced him, because he’s not in the biz any longer.

 

I spoke to him maybe 4 years ago when I was temporarily residing in Orlando, after he had moved to Washington State. Mostly along the lines of, “I like it out here”

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I think I know what you mean. I’ve a couple of friends who escort and those meets are great, we fuck (usually filming for justforfans etc) or just for the fun of it, have coffee, chat about the work or anything and it’s great. But when I’ve got together with other guys who work in the business they’re often flaky and random with responses and arrangements similar to what you describe Jarrod.

 

I think that for many guys working as escorts the life is chaotic and unstructured. They don’t approach it as a business which means they don’t make plans or have schedules, everything is ad-hoc. The next client may call and so if they’ve committed themselves to something already then they’d miss the client, so everything ends up being provisional just in case a client books. The business forces this approach because of the way clients book...I’m horny I’ll book a guy to turn up in the next hour...that means escorts have to be ready at short notice a lot of the time.

 

I never take those 2am calls where they ask for me to be available now, but I can see how if you’re in need of the money you’d end up taking bookings like that and live a random type of schedule.

 

Because I’m great friends with a few escorts (and work with them too if clients book us together) then I always hope that a similar friendship can be built with new escorts I meet but I’ve no great expectations. I think you’re right. The job is difficult and it makes you quite transactional in relationships if you’re not careful.

 

You said this very well! Definitely bridged that disconnect, and it makes sense. And I see it. That’s why I told one of the escorts before we met: If I take my time out to meet another escort 1 on 1, it can’t be a situation where you’re ready to rush off to the next client after 30 minutes.

 

However: I went ahead and went out on a limb to meet one of the advertisers who I mentioned in my earlier post. I’ll just say: I think the other thing that will probably be a “block” for me, is that I find some guys have ways of working that I may ethically don’t agree with (and even I have been subject of disapproval by some on the board on things).

 

That said, I’m almost feeling lucky to have not been in a worse situation the other night. The escort guy I met up with had arranged a 3 way visit for a client (he met him on Grindr, which is another way of working I don’t regularly pursue, but he uses it religiously). The client wasn’t able to afford the MSRP of having us both. But he said what he could pay, and escort agreed. Well, after the client arrived and paid us upfront...we started the action, but before we could get into the “main course”, the other escort decides that he wasn’t being paid enough, and was only going to do vanilla service.

 

At that point, the client is like...well we agreed to do that. And I’m like, hey...I’ll go ahead and continue, it’s not an issue for me even though it is less than what I’d normally do. But the guy was from Grindr. You don’t always get regular price advertising on Grindr. It’s like the Groupon of escorting. The other escort is like no, I don’t want to do all that. Then the client starts asking for the donation back, and I’m just there like...trying to mitigate the situation. Other escort isn’t budging. Client is getting angry.

 

On his way out, the client said; “you guys go fuck yourselves”. And this is at the escort’s hotel. Which is a security breach. But then come to find out, the escort didn’t even have his client’s phone number. The client also agreed to pay the rest the next day, but I’m telling the escort, how would you have gotten it if you didn’t have his phone number to begin with? I always ask every client to include name, age, and phone number. It’s just a responsible thing to ask.

 

I don’t mention this to bash the other escort, but it’s an example of the things one can run into, dealing with other guys in the biz. I felt so bad for the client, I almost wanted to run out to the client and say, “call me...I’ll meet you for no charge next time.” I was telling the escort, the “client” was from Grindr and he was already here. There’s no guarantee he would have become a regular or even paid us the rest of the funds, but it certainly guaranteed the client won’t come again. I’ve been in very few confrontational in-person situations with clients, and that was one I would have never let go down on my watch.

 

Other than that, the escort seems like a guy with a good amount of common sense and class. But we work so differently, that I almost don’t feel right about it. Like for one, he wanted to do the 3 way on a PULL OUT SOFA. I’m like, what are you doing? I would never do a session like that. Put a sheet over your bed if you must.

 

But it just goes to show, when it comes down to it...we may both have the same end game, but it doesn’t equate to being on the same page on things when it comes down to running things.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jamie21]

You said this very well! Definitely bridged that disconnect, and it makes sense. And I see it. That’s why I told one of the escorts before we met: If I take my time out to meet another escort 1 on 1, it can’t be a situation where you’re ready to rush off to the next client after 30 minutes.

 

However: I went ahead and went out on a limb to meet one of the advertisers who I mentioned in my earlier post. I’ll just say: I think the other thing that will probably be a “block” for me, is that I find some guys have ways of working that I may ethically don’t agree with (and even I have been subject of disapproval by some on the board on things).

 

That said, I’m almost feeling lucky to have not been in a worse situation the other night. The escort guy I met up with had arranged a 3 way visit for a client (he met him on Grindr, which is another way of working I don’t regularly pursue, but he uses it religiously). The client wasn’t able to afford the MSRP of having us both. But he said what he could pay, and escort agreed. Well, after the client arrived and paid us upfront...we started the action, but before we could get into the “main course”, the other escort decides that he wasn’t being paid enough, and was only going to do vanilla service.

 

At that point, the client is like...well we agreed to do that. And I’m like, hey...I’ll go ahead and continue, it’s not an issue for me even though it is less than what I’d normally do. But the guy was from Grindr. You don’t always get regular price advertising on Grindr. It’s like the Groupon of escorting. The other escort is like no, I don’t want to do all that. Then the client starts asking for the donation back, and I’m just there like...trying to mitigate the situation. Other escort isn’t budging. Client is getting angry.

 

On his way out, the client said; “you guys go fuck yourselves”. And this is at the escort’s hotel. Which is a security breach. But then come to find out, the escort didn’t even have his client’s phone number. The client also agreed to pay the rest the next day, but I’m telling the escort, how would you have gotten it if you didn’t have his phone number to begin with? I always ask every client to include name, age, and phone number. It’s just a responsible thing to ask.

 

I don’t mention this to bash the other escort, but it’s an example of the things one can run into, dealing with other guys in the biz. I felt so bad for the client, I almost wanted to run out to the client and say, “call me...I’ll meet you for no charge next time.” I was telling the escort, the “client” was from Grindr and he was already here. There’s no guarantee he would have become a regular or even paid us the rest of the funds, but it certainly guaranteed the client won’t come again. I’ve been in very few confrontational in-person situations with clients, and that was one I would have never let go down on my watch.

 

Other than that, the escort seems like a guy with a good amount of common sense and class. But we work so differently, that I almost don’t feel right about it. Like for one, he wanted to do the 3 way on a PULL OUT SOFA. I’m like, what are you doing? I would never do a session like that. Put a sheet over your bed if you must.

 

But it just goes to show, when it comes down to it...we may both have the same end game, but it doesn’t equate to being on the same page on things when it comes down to running things.

You said this very well! Definitely bridged that disconnect, and it makes sense. And I see it. That’s why I told one of the escorts before we met: If I take my time out to meet another escort 1 on 1, it can’t be a situation where you’re ready to rush off to the next client after 30 minutes.

 

However: I went ahead and went out on a limb to meet one of the advertisers who I mentioned in my earlier post. I’ll just say: I think the other thing that will probably be a “block” for me, is that I find some guys have ways of working that I may ethically don’t agree with (and even I have been subject of disapproval by some on the board on things).

 

That said, I’m almost feeling lucky to have not been in a worse situation the other night. The escort guy I met up with had arranged a 3 way visit for a client (he met him on Grindr, which is another way of working I don’t regularly pursue, but he uses it religiously). The client wasn’t able to afford the MSRP of having us both. But he said what he could pay, and escort agreed. Well, after the client arrived and paid us upfront...we started the action, but before we could get into the “main course”, the other escort decides that he wasn’t being paid enough, and was only going to do vanilla service.

 

At that point, the client is like...well we agreed to do that. And I’m like, hey...I’ll go ahead and continue, it’s not an issue for me even though it is less than what I’d normally do. But the guy was from Grindr. You don’t always get regular price advertising on Grindr. It’s like the Groupon of escorting. The other escort is like no, I don’t want to do all that. Then the client starts asking for the donation back, and I’m just there like...trying to mitigate the situation. Other escort isn’t budging. Client is getting angry.

 

On his way out, the client said; “you guys go fuck yourselves”. And this is at the escort’s hotel. Which is a security breach. But then come to find out, the escort didn’t even have his client’s phone number. The client also agreed to pay the rest the next day, but I’m telling the escort, how would you have gotten it if you didn’t have his phone number to begin with? I always ask every client to include name, age, and phone number. It’s just a responsible thing to ask.

 

I don’t mention this to bash the other escort, but it’s an example of the things one can run into, dealing with other guys in the biz. I felt so bad for the client, I almost wanted to run out to the client and say, “call me...I’ll meet you for no charge next time.” I was telling the escort, the “client” was from Grindr and he was already here. There’s no guarantee he would have become a regular or even paid us the rest of the funds, but it certainly guaranteed the client won’t come again. I’ve been in very few confrontational in-person situations with clients, and that was one I would have never let go down on my watch.

 

Other than that, the escort seems like a guy with a good amount of common sense and class. But we work so differently, that I almost don’t feel right about it. Like for one, he wanted to do the 3 way on a PULL OUT SOFA. I’m like, what are you doing? I would never do a session like that. Put a sheet over your bed if you must.

 

But it just goes to show, when it comes down to it...we may both have the same end game, but it doesn’t equate to being on the same page on things when it comes down to running things.

 

 

That story makes me smile, I’ve been in a similar situation once. There’s a few guys I know who I’d never work with again, either because their clients are from Grindr (although I’ve had a few off there before it banned me...but I learned those clients are not ideal for me.) or because they do drugs or are unprofessional (they turn up late or are scruffy.

 

It’s very bad to change your mind about what was agreed in the middle of the meeting. If my client had agreed to limits before the meet but then they asked for extra service during the meeting I’d be annoyed. It makes the rest of the meeting difficult if I say no and it puts me in a position where I feel compelled to agree. Your colleague should have kept to his agreement with the client. I think you handled it as best you could.

 

I’m very careful who I work with now, especially if the client wants me to perform with the other guy or girl because I need to know my partner will do a good job for the client. Anyway my preference is to work one on one with the client but it is interesting to observe how others run things if it’s their client I am assisting with.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I’m very careful who I work with now, especially if the client wants me to perform with the other guy or girl because I need to know my partner will do a good job for the client. Anyway my preference is to work one on one with the client but it is interesting to observe how others run things if it’s their client I am assisting with.

 

Right, all of the above. And yeah...once you agree to something you have to stick with it. If either party don't agree, don't let them waste their time coming.

 

I had to battle with myself on this today. A client was coming, and I agreed to let him come over close to my hotel checkout time. I would have to pay extra by the hour to stay longer, so no biggie. But I had typed up a couple texts telling him I couldn't do it because I wanted to continue on to my destination, but then I deleted them before I sent it. I would feel like a shitty person to cancel on the guy, when he was on his way (even though he was coming to the city anyway for other stuff...at-least that's what he said but who knows maybe he did come just for me).

 

But otherwise yes, I'm not going to work with anymore guys UNLESS the client has met me and the other escort already and knows both our demeanors OR the client chooses to contact individually (I've had a few successful 3 and 4 ways in this manner before). But I can't be confident that another guy will arrange a session with the same intent that I would. I don't do secrets and surprises when it comes down to it.

 

I even seen a female escort who did such thing years ago. The client called both of us to arrive. She came in, got the 200... and then was like, "this is just my arrival fee. If you want to do anything beyond this, it'll be an extra 200". And she did nothing more than just watch him suck me off. ?

Edited April 9, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jamie21]

Arrival fee!! That’s a new one. I bet she charges extra to suck the other tit ?.

 

You sound like you’re on the same page as me. If you ever visit London and clients want a duo session let me know! I’m not as hot as you but the client will get a great service from two professional guys.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Arrival fee!! That’s a new one. I bet she charges extra to suck the other tit ?.

 

You sound like you’re on the same page as me. If you ever visit London and clients want a duo session let me know! I’m not as hot as you but the client will get a great service from two professional guys.

 

ironic, a client and I were just talking about me going to London. It was on my bucket list for 2020, but of course travel was all out of whack. If the stars align and I can make it, I might be able to make the leap lol.

[Jamie21]

ironic, a client and I were just talking about me going to London. It was on my bucket list for 2020, but of course travel was all out of whack. If the stars align and I can make it, I might be able to make the leap lol.

 

It’s a pity. I’ve got a few regular US based clients who visit me when they are in London. None have been able to travel in the past year. I really hope this pandemic ends soon!

[+ Coolwave35]

I’d book the two of you in London. Put me on the list for when it happens please.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I’d book the two of you in London. Put me on the list for when it happens please.

 

Awesome sauce ?

 

I ❤️ 3 ways and it’s extra fun with another top. However, my last 3 way included 1 bottom and 1 verse top. I gladly fucked them both while the main guy (client) also took turns fucking him and gave my 1st ever double facial. 4 days worth of jizz ? ?