Strategies to boost RM messages?

[Alisterxxx]

Hey y’all! A client of mine, my first one actually, showed me this review site to help me with getting better acquainted with the industry. Since then I’ve had about 5 clients and I’m loving it. I do get rapid tested for covid once every week. Anywho, what do y’all like to see on an RM profile? I’ve been keeping a list of cute/sexy pics from other profiles that I'd like to eventually recreate but I’m considering platinum as well. I did invest in sponser but I don’t think it’s worth it tbh. Here’s my site for reference: (sorry that this looks like a cheap shot to advertise ?)

https://rent.men/Alisterxxx/

 

 

Update: I started bottoming, redid all of my pics using a ring light and my iPhone 12 Pro, and paid for platinum. It worked out I’m getting a lot more clients! Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread or sent me a message thru here or on rm!!

Edited February 24, 2021 by Alisterxxx

[BuffaloKyle]

Welcome to the forum! You have a great ad and very hot pics! Unfortunately for me you're a top! ? I'm sure you will get lots of feedback on here but I know for me the first thing I look for is how recently you have updated your pictures. Guys who start having pictures that are 2 or 3 years old with no new ones is a big turn off.

[Alisterxxx]

Welcome to the forum! You have a great ad and very hot pics! Unfortunately for me you're a top! ? I'm sure you will get lots of feedback on here but I know for me the first thing I look for is how recently you have updated your pictures. Guys who start having pictures that are 2 or 3 years old with no new ones is a big turn off.

Thanks for typing that out! Side note: do u think charging 250 is too much? I just got turned away for it and ugh it kills me every time cuz like I know they would say yes to 150

[+ FrankR]

Hey y’all! A client of mine, my first one actually, showed me this review site to help me with getting better acquainted with the industry. Since then I’ve had about 5 clients and I’m loving it. I do get rapid tested for covid once every week. Anywho, what do y’all like to see on an RM profile? I’ve been keeping a list of cute/sexy pics from other profiles that I like but I’m considering platinum as well. I did invest in sponser but I don’t think it’s worth it tbh. Here’s my site for reference: (sorry that this looks like a cheap shot to advertise ?)

https://rent.men/Alisterxxx/

Welcome Alister! I’ve never contacted a guy via rentmen messenger or email - it is just too clunky; I think you will find most guys want to reach out via text message. You may find it useful to add a phone number where people can text you. You don’t have to give out you personal cel number - just get a google voice number and install the app on your phone; gives you both functionality and privacy.

 

$250 is very fair for NYC when it comes to an escort experience. In my experience most guys charge slightly more than that. If a guy is not willing to pay your hourly rate, wish him well in a polite way and move on. Some escorts offer a massage experience (which does not include penetration) for less $ but it is up to you how you want to structure your business model.

 

Good luck!

[KeepItReal]

Hey y’all! A client of mine, my first one actually, showed me this review site to help me with getting better acquainted with the industry. Since then I’ve had about 5 clients and I’m loving it. I do get rapid tested for covid once every week. Anywho, what do y’all like to see on an RM profile? I’ve been keeping a list of cute/sexy pics from other profiles that I like but I’m considering platinum as well. I did invest in sponser but I don’t think it’s worth it tbh. Here’s my site for reference: (sorry that this looks like a cheap shot to advertise ?)

https://rent.men/Alisterxxx/

Welcome to the forum! You may find this thread of interest: https://m4m-forum.org/threads/i-want-to-move-to-new-york-and-commit-to-escorting.134417/

 

Some escorts will offer discounts for repeat clients and for multi hour sessions. All depends on your business model. I agree with @FrankR that NYC rates mostly fall between $250 and $300 for incalls. I can't speak to outcalls. Be a man of your word and encourage clients to leave reviews for you on rentmen, and you will do well.

 

Best of luck with your career!

Edited February 16, 2021 by KeepItReal

[+ nycman]

Thanks for typing that out! Side note: do u think charging 250 is too much? I just got turned away for it and ugh it kills me every time cuz like I know they would say yes to 150

Welcome to the world of big business.

 

You should charge whatever you feel comfortable with.

Look at the market you’re in.

See what others are offering and what they’re charging.

Then pick your price point.

Yes, a lower price will get you more clients, but there is a point of diminishing returns.

As a new unknown, I would suggest starting low.

Build up a clientele and a great reputation first.

However, realize that is your “regulars” won’t been too keen on you raising their rate later.

 

I’m sure there’s a market for twink tops out there. Have fun.

Edited February 17, 2021 by nycman

[xyz48B]

Many, many escorts use an app to text that’s not there regular phone number. That way you protect some of your identity and you can turn off notifications when you’re “off the clock.”

[jawjateck]

Welcome to the biz and to the forum! Good advice so far! It's common for new providers to adjust their price points until they reach the place of equilibrium and profitability. If your rates are too low, you will attract some disrespectful and problem clients. Focus on establishing a regular clientele. When you meet a client and the entire experience was a win-win, consider a way to show that client your appreciation, a brief follow-up thank you, a small refund, a special discount for multi-hour meeting, or other consideration. If he hires you again, it is worth it. If he hires you five more times, it is really worth it. Set a goal to achieve 25-40% of your revenue from repeat clients. It's more efficient from a business perspective and reduces the wear and tear on your mind. You cannot indefinitely sustain the inefficiency and mental brain drain of constantly churning one-and-done clients for revenue.

 

Well wishes!

[jtwalker]

Thanks for typing that out! Side note: do u think charging 250 is too much? I just got turned away for it and ugh it kills me every time cuz like I know they would say yes to 150

 

On the one hand, you could charge a lower rate to start, build a reputation and then eventually charge slightly more than market-rate as a premium escort.

 

On the other hand, I've found that customers who want a discount are the most likely to be a hassle.

 

And on the other hand (I guess this must be someone else's hand), you can adjust your rates to experiment and actually see if it matters. You may suspect that you'd attract more business at a lower rate, but you may not. If your income over time doesn't go up with a lower rate, then charge more. No sense in selling yourself short or breaking even on more effort.

[orville]

Hi Pumpkin! You're cute!

 

Bottom client here, so I consider myself qualified to advise a top escort about what we bottoms want to see on a RM Profile:

 

At 20, your young age is one of your greatest assets as it's equated in our minds to higher stamina, and multiple loads to feed us. Capitalize on that, do as others have suggested, and see what other "Twink Tops" (which is your current niche) are charging and see if your age/body or other assets allow you to go over $250, especially in a market like New York where you can find big spenders. One hint to pay attention to: if clients start to tip you often without you asking or suggesting it, It means you are delivering something others don't. Then you can make your base rate+tip your new base rate until you reach a rate max point where to establish yourself in the market.

 

Something that you can use right now is your natural lean body. You are at that age where it's so pleasant to see a natural young body that hasn't been exposed to heavy weightlifting yet. Some clients like that, so to take advantage of it, take more pictures naked, in provocative poses, or just wearing underwear. You can also add 1 or 2 pics of your wearing clothes that accentuate the best attributes of your body in a manly way. While I understand that people at your age are often attracted to the aesthetics of anime, manga, cosplay, etc, it sends some mixed signals when we see a top wearing tight "sailor" or "flight attendant" costumes. You picture the rude image of a construction worker, or a skater / videogamer, or a college student, or even a hipster or a nerd guy. That is something that would definitely entice us much more to give you a try.

 

I see your pic #3 shows your as**ole. Unless you want to market yourself as Top/Vers I would remove this picture as some (not all, but most) bottom clients prefer total tops and top/vers for us equals versatile.

 

Then, thinking of the future I would recommend getting into fitness and building up some muscle WITHOUT GOING CRAZY OR USING STEROIDS as it definitely will bring you many more clients. Building a lean muscled body will definitely look great on you.

 

Include at least 3 to 5 pictures of your hard cock in different angles. We love to see it in different poses. Soft cocks are ok but just 1 pic of that kind is more than enough. We want to see many pics and videos of your hard cock, or your hard cock throbbing inside your underwear. Also, a very good selling point for us is a cumshot video or videos of you topping another guy.

 

Now things we don't want to see: PNP (crystal meth and other highly addictive hard drugs), either stated on your profile or visible signs of use in your face and body. Please don't fall for that and stay away of it as if it was venom because it literally is a DEATH SENTENCE.

 

I'll add more later if I get new ideas.

Edited February 18, 2021 by orville

[Alisterxxx]

Hi Pumpkin! You're cute!

 

Bottom client here, so I consider myself qualified to advise a top escort about what we bottom clients want to see on a RM Profile:

 

At 20, your young age is one of your greatest assets as it's equated in our minds to higher stamina, and loads to feed us. Capitalize on that, do as others have suggested, and see what other "Twink Tops" (which is your current niche) are charging and see if your age/body or other assets allow you to go over $250, especially in a market like New York where you can fins big spenders. One hint to pay attention to: if clients start to tip you often without you asking or suggesting it, It means you are delivering something others don't. Then you can make your base rate+tip your new base rate until you reach a rate max point where to establish yourself in the market.

 

Something that you can use right now is your natural lean body. You are at that age where it's so pleasant to see a natural young body that hasn't been exposed to heavy weightlifting yet. Some clients like that, so to take advantage of it, take more pictures nake or just wearing underwear. You can also 1 or 2 pics of your wearing clothes that accentuate the best attributes of your body in a manly way. While I understand that people at your age are often attracted to the aesthetics of anime and manga, it sends some mixed signals if we see a top wearing tight "sailor" or "flight attendant" costumes. You picture the rude image of a construction worker, or a skater / videogamer, or a college student, or even a hipster or a nerd guy and that is something that would definitely entice us much more to give you a try.

 

I see your pic #3 shows your as**ole. Unless you want to market yourself as Top/Vers I would remove this picture as some (not all) bottom clients prefer total tops and top/vers for us equals versatile.

 

Then, thinking of the future I would recommend getting into fitness and building up so muscle WITHOUT GOING CRAZY OR USING STEROIDS as it definitely will bring you many more clients. Building a lean muscled body will definitely look great on you.

 

Include at least 3 to 5 pictures of your hard cock in different angles. We love to see it in different poses. Soft cocks are ok but just 1 pic of that kind is more than enough. I want to see many pics and videos of your hard cock, or your hard cock throbbing inside your underwear. Also, a very good selling point for us is a cumshot video and videos of you topping another guy.

 

Now things we don't want to see: PNP, either stated on your profile or visible in your face and body. Please don't fall for that and stay away of it as if it was venom because it literally is a DEATH SENTENCE.

 

I'll add more later if I get new ideas.

Ugh this is definitely going to make me actually use my ring light. I died when I saw ur profile pic of Peter in those nails lmaoooo! Ur right about the costume. I've been an escort for officially 3 weeks tomorrow so I should get a good college boy aesthetic on my profile now that I know this is what I want to do while I'm in nursing school.

[orville]

Ugh this is definitely going to make me actually use my ring light. I died when I saw ur profile pic of Peter in those nails lmaoooo! Ur right about the costume. I've been an escort for officially 3 weeks tomorrow so I should get a good college boy aesthetic on my profile now that I know this is what I want to do while I'm in nursing school.

Also, invest your money. Put it to work for you by investing in a Low-Cost Mututal Fund.

Fidelity and Vanguard are the 2 best companies to go with in the US, as far as I know.

[Chance]

Great thread ??

[marylander1940]

On the one hand, you could charge a lower rate to start, build a reputation and then eventually charge slightly more than market-rate as a premium escort.

On the other hand, I've found that customers who want a discount are the most likely to be a hassle.

 

And on the other hand (I guess this must be someone else's hand), you can adjust your rates to experiment and actually see if it matters. You may suspect that you'd attract more business at a lower rate, but you may not. If your income over time doesn't go up with a lower rate, then charge more. No sense in selling yourself short or breaking even on more effort.

 

is like showing up a coupon while ordering... you'll get more fries, rice, etc. cheap stuff.

[orville]

is like showing up a coupon while ordering... you'll get more fries, rice, etc. cheap stuff.

Yes, especially in a city as expensive as New York, I don't think $250 is a high rate.

I would say that any provider who is in NYC, even more, if he's in Manhattan, should be ok with such a rate.

But it also demands to always strive to give the best experience in terms of service and skills in such a competitive market.

Service and skills are very valid arguments for an increase in rate. It's not always about time. In some cases, it's about Nationality! ?

It's one of the most competitive markets but it plays in favor of the OP that he's one of the youngest out there.

[marylander1940]

Yes, especially in a city as expensive as New York, I don't think $250 is a high rate.

I would say that any provider who is in NYC, even more, if he's in Manhattan, should be ok with such a rate.

But it also demands to always strive to give the best experience in terms of service and skills.

It's one of the most competitive markets but it plays in favor of the OP that he's one of the youngest out there.

 

Unfortunately some threads have become a raise to see who brags about paying the lowest for the hottest guys.

 

btw whatever happened with the self fulfilling prophecies about rates must go down 11 months ago when shit hit the fan and covid-19 came to our lives? Memory lane!

[orville]

Unfortunately some threads have become a raise to see who brags about paying the lowest for the hottest guys.

 

btw whatever happened with the self fulfilling prophecies about rates must go down 11 months ago when shit hit the fan and covid-19 came to our lives? Memory lane!

I think it kind of happened on this side of the border.

On RM, I see a good number of guys in my city going for $200.

If you go to alternative sites like Mintboys, Leolist, or Locanto, there are guys going for as low as $100, sometimes less. ?

 

But again, it depends on demand and supply.

There must be clients bargaining or unwilling to pay more than $250 because of unemployment.

But I also see the popular providers charging $300/hr and getting reviews every week as if nothing happens (assets/skills).

[marylander1940]

I think it kind of happened on this side of the border.

On RM, I see a good number of guys in my city going for $200.

If you go to Alternative sites like Leolist or Locanto, there are guys going for as low as $100, sometimes less. ?

 

But again it depends on demand and supply.

There must be clients bargaining or unwilling to pay more than $250 because of unemployment.

But I also see the popular providers charging $300/hr and getting reviews every week as if nothing happens (assets/skills).

 

you're in Canada!

[CalTec]

Also, invest your money. Put it to work for you by investing in a Low-Cost Mututal Fund.

Fidelity and Vanguard are the 2 best companies to go with in the US, as far as I know.

 

OR you could earn your hourly/overnight/weekend etc rate in crypto, add it to a DeFi /CeFi platform to earn yield with higher interest rates and zero management fees. All with the ability to convert to fiat currency...if that's your thing. This is what Gen Z/Millenials are doing to exit from the current financial paradigm that is suffering from chronic inflation. This is our generation's equivalent of buying gold and building wealth. Traditional centralized investments are going to die out by way of a thousand cuts. DM me if you're interested in learning more. ?

[Guest Justin7402]

Unfortunately some threads have become a raise to see who brags about paying the lowest for the hottest guys.

 

btw whatever happened with the self fulfilling prophecies about rates must go down 11 months ago when shit hit the fan and covid-19 came to our lives? Memory lane!

 

 

I don't think they've gone down a ton, but I have noticed a drop in what people are asking for. I've gotten a lot of 250 offers where people used to ask for 300

[Rod Hagen]

Great to meet you!

[YourMascMuscle]

Welcome to the club!

[YourMascMuscle]

Welcome to the club!

[YourMascMuscle]

you're in Canada!

Also a Canadian here!

[YourMascMuscle]

you're in Canada!

Also a Canadian here!