going back to therapeutic from erotic - to my dismay

[Smurof]

One of my thrills this year was receiving two erotic massages in a row about three weeks apart from a therapeutic masseur. I had been seeing this person for years, and he is a major tease, so it was a dream come true to be able to "have things go further".

 

I don't know if it is because of the time of day that it wasn't the same my last two visits, since the erotic ones were first thing in the morning, while the non-erotic ones were at the end of his day, or if that's just something that will have to stay a pleasant memory, since I feel it's awkward asking about something that really wasn't supposed to happen, although I love that it did!

 

I just am not sure what to do, since I was personally bummed that the "fun stopped", but yet he is an excellent massager. I could try a morning appointment again, and if nothing "special" happens, I'll understand that it just never will anymore. Or, who knows? Maybe it's his horned up mental state coming to work directly from the gym that was why I was fortunate to be able to be "fed the beast".

 

I do believe it's my new semi-muscular body that is what led to having an intimate opportunity : he told me that he is proud of me. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the guys with the hot bodies have the better times with the hires.

[+ sniper]

I would guess it's the timing. Alternately...maybe he was hoping for a tip and you paid him the same as normal?

[jtwalker]

I would just talk to him about it. What do you have to lose?

[+ Balthazar]

I imagine that there are a variety of reasons why a masseur might shift between therapeutic and erotic sessions (e.g., timing, relationship status, arousal, attraction). I do understand, however, that once a masseur goes erotic it can be tough to return to strictly therapeutic, as the client might take it personally. If I were in this situation and enjoyed the therapeutic massage, I would continue seeing the masseur with the mindset that extras are nice but not guaranteed.

[+ Yellowrod]

Maybe try to schedule early in the day to see if the magic returns? And congratulations on the new body - it is definitely tough in these COVID times to feel energized enough to work out - kudos!

[Monarchy79]

I would just talk to him about it. What do you have to lose?

 

I would respectfully advise against that. That puts the control and satisfaction in the masseur’s hands....

 

And the one thing that our forum friend could lose is his dignity.

[Monarchy79]

I have a suggestion:

 

Take a break from this masseur and find another one. Then book an appointment with him after some time goes by, with even more gym progress (show him what he’s missing), and then act aloof during the massage.....

 

He will be all over your before you know it.

 

The thing about guys who tease is this: Once the back and forth of teasing is over and you become too eager or too easy, he’ll lose interest.

[jtwalker]

I have a suggestion:

 

Take a break from this masseur and find another one. Then book an appointment with him after some time goes by, with even more gym progress (show him what he’s missing), and then act aloof during the massage.....

 

He will be all over your before you know it.

 

The thing about guys who tease is this: Once the back and forth of teasing is over and you become too eager or too easy, he’ll lose interest.

 

He's not a boyfriend, he's a masseur (service provider). The direct approach is always better than the passive aggressive approach you are recommending here.

[+ poolboy48220]

I knew a dancer at the club, his private dances were "anything goes" at first, but after a while they got more conservative; he wouldn't even strip down fully. I asked him about it and he said he was just getting more uncomfortable with it. I also asked and he said it wasn't just me, he was more limited with everyone; that was a bit of comfort.

[Monarchy79]

He's not a boyfriend, he's a masseur (service provider). The direct approach is always better than the passive aggressive approach you are recommending here.

 

 

My approach isn’t passive-aggressive; it’s strategic ?.

The OPs goal is to get back to getting Erotic massages again.

 

If he chooses to be direct (putting the masseur in a corner) he’ll get a direct answer, which could shut the opportunity down forever, as the masseur was already turned off when he directly told him that he shared his experiences with him to others.

 

By asking the direct question, he places the power in the masseur’s hands. By being strategic, he will possibly be able to manipulate the situation, as people’s minds don’t work based on general logic; they work on emotion, and it’s relationship to timing. Playing with the scenarios of timing and the masseurs thinking, gives the OP some leverage.

 

I’ll tell you that I’ve been both direct and strategic in life... and it’s important to know when to use each tactic.... ☺️

[big dale]

I do believe it's my new semi-muscular body that is what led to having an intimate opportunity : he told me that he is proud of me. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the guys with the hot bodies have the better times with the hires.

 

This thinking is kind of fucked on so many levels. Everybody deserves a hot time regardless of what body they have. And the fact you have assigned some value to a certain body type doesn't mean everyone else has.

[Monarchy79]

This thinking is kind of fucked on so many levels. Everybody deserves a hot time regardless of what body they have. And the fact you have assigned some value to a certain body type doesn't mean everyone else has.

 

Although I agree with you in theory, I don’t agree with you in reality...

 

When hiring an escort, everyone “deserves”, a hot time, because that’s what you are literally paying for.

 

But with a massage, you’re paying for a massage, which is all that you’re truly guaranteed. This is why the philosophy of the “YMMV”, comes into play.... How far a massage goes, contributes to various factors....

 

Let’s use yourself as an example. From your posts and some of the other discussions, you have a big, fat dick. Whether you believe it or not, your big, fat dick, has gotten you a lot of action on the massage table. There will be instances where that same masseur will not go any further than a therapeutic massage, on another client, as their dick may be smaller....To the contrary, there may be instances where you and other members of this forum have had the same masseur, and the other clients fucked him, but he never offered you to fuck him, because your dick was too big. In this instance, your big fat dick, may have been to your disadvantage. This works both ways for all of us sometimes.

 

Body types, dick size, butt size, race, level of hairiness, height, even the way you smell, all plays into the preferences of that particular masseur, and how far things will go on that table.

 

The key, however, is finding those providers where there is that connection. Once you find those, stick with them.

[tumblsf]

Moonarchy79, you sound very disturbed tbqh.

[Monarchy79]

Moonarchy79, you sound very disturbed tbqh.

 

Thanks ?