What are some ways to gain more regulars?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

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Edited December 10, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Rudynate]

What I have noticed with you and your frustrations about your business is that the client is always the problem. I'm wondering what would happen if you tried assuming that you, somehow, were the problem. And I don't pretend to know that this would work, but it might be illuminating to assume that you, ultimately, are the source of your client problems. I'm not saying that's true, but it might be a productive way to look at it.

[John]

What I have noticed with you and your frustrations about your business is that the client is always the problem. I'm wondering what would happen if you tried assuming that you, somehow, were the problem. And I don't pretend to know that this would work, but it might be illuminating to assume that you, ultimately, are the source of your client problems. I'm not saying that's true, but it might be a productive way to look at it.

To be gentler, focus on what you can control, yourself, and not on the clients, whom you cannot control.

 

Me, as a client I try to treat the escort as a potential friend and hope he will do the same. If you have a good time with a guy, let him know and even offer something extra--a bit more time, another kiss, share something personal about yourself. Send a thank you note the following day. Clients are not cash machines and even the most cynical want to feel loved for a few minutes.

[Rudynate]

To be gentler, focus on what you can control, yourself, and not on the clients, whom you cannot control.

 

Me, as a client I try to treat the escort as a potential friend and hope he will do the same. If you have a good time with a guy, let him know and even offer something extra--a bit more time, another kiss, share something personal about yourself. Send a thank you note the following day. Clients are not cash machines and even the most cynical want to feel loved for a few minutes.

 

 

That's a gentler conversation, but, to me, also a different conversation.

[Lazarus]

To be gentler, focus on what you can control, yourself, and not on the clients, whom you cannot control.

 

Me, as a client I try to treat the escort as a potential friend and hope he will do the same. If you have a good time with a guy, let him know and even offer something extra--a bit more time, another kiss, share something personal about yourself. Send a thank you note the following day. Clients are not cash machines and even the most cynical want to feel loved for a few minutes.

Send a thank you note the following day? As in the mail ?? Would a telegram suffice?

[Rudynate]

Send a thank you note the following day? As in the mail ?? Would a telegram suffice?

 

 

is it even possible to send a telegram any more?

[Lazarus]

https://www.itelegram.com/

[John]

Send a thank you note the following day? As in the mail ?? Would a telegram suffice?

Don't be snide. A couple of times I saw a thank you message from a provider on my Planet Romeo account the following day. Made me feel good, and I booked the guy again. Same could be done through a telephone or the RentMen message system. "Nice" goes along way.

[Bootybuilder]

I think you should simply move and the market there isn’t fruitful enough. May experience a big swing in money with a location change.

[jcmiami1]

A couple years back I had a provider text me with a “had a great time let me know if interested in the future.” I never expected that and yes I saw him again a few times just because of that gesture. Things like that make a huge difference especially if you live in area that has heavy escort saturation and clients can pick anyone they want.

[Lazarus]

Just to be clear: I have received a thank you text many times & have always appreciated it! It did not determine whether or not I saw them again.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

What I have noticed with you and your frustrations about your business is that the client is always the problem. I'm wondering what would happen if you tried assuming that you, somehow, were the problem. And I don't pretend to know that this would work, but it might be illuminating to assume that you, ultimately, are the source of your client problems. I'm not saying that's true, but it might be a productive way to look at it.

 

Well that’s easy to say when you don’t know me, nor have you worked side by side to see the things that I refer to. Don’t be so judgmental. If you don’t like what I have to say, that doesn’t equate to me being the reason for how someone treats their encounters. If so, what would this problem be? What and why am I the reason specifically, for this. You tell me. My guess is: you don’t know. You’re just talking out of your ass. So you can go have a seat on it ✋?

 

BUT, since you know it all and have the answers to my “problems”...I just had an example today of exactly what I referred to. 1 client who’ve I met before, we were just chatting yesterday (Saturday) about arranging something. He says he will get back to me Monday. Today (surprise, surprise), he texts me; what’s going on. Then says he’s free for a couple hours, but that might not be enough time. And it wasn’t. I need time to get ready and get to him, there’s no way I could have made that happen. So, the meet didn’t happen, and he says he has to check back on what day he can due to; etc etc.

 

Now, that’s not picking on him...but that’s the stuff I refer to that starts to set things on the wrong path. It was last minute, then he don’t know when/how etc. I told him, had I known yesterday you were going to be free for a couple hours this afternoon, I would have already been there. I’m not going to get mad at him right now, because I think we can sort it out...But if it becomes a pattern, it will create friction.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Just to be clear: I have received a thank you text many times & have always appreciated it! It did not determine whether or not I saw them again.

 

That’s true. And I get that it is a good gesture to do so. Sometimes I find myself forgetting to do that, but not in a forgetful way...But I tend to like to do that sincerely at the end, versus trying to get into more back and forth texting...which after a hot sex encounter, I just don’t have the brain cells left to do so lol.

 

of course if they text me, I always make sure to thank or welcome

 

 

I think you should simply move and the market there isn’t fruitful enough. May experience a big swing in money with a location change.

 

That I know is the main factor. Some cities are just 1 time hire regions. There’s probably a reason why there’s no big name escorts who are coming to or from Kansas City. I mean, midwestern places like Chicago are heavily saturated and hard to break into also, but I think there’s either die hard regulars or ample newbies to choose from. But I’ve seen even escorts there, let their rentmen ads expire for weeks. I had already explained it, so to have someone like @Rudynate say something like I’m the problem, is highly inconsiderate.

 

I’m not blaming the client for anything. I’m just saying, how can it be made into a more regular situation. And if not, what’s blocking some from doing so. No need to be combative.

 

But like I said, it’s not that I don’t have ANY regulars. I have regulars in a few states. I’ve always had regulars. Lots of them. Sometimes, it would become TOO regular as if I were their 2nd male wife/hubby ? . However, those tend to be kept in communication with for a year or longer. I’m mainly talking about the overall majority of meets... Which many times don’t become regulars.

 

I was also spending a lot of time in Saint Louis area, I had made 2 regular regulars...but many others who met me previously, didn’t end up booking me again once I moved there. So then, it had gotten slow again and I had to leave.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Rudynate]

Well that’s easy to say when you don’t know me, nor have you worked side by side to see the things that I refer to. Don’t be so judgmental. If you don’t like what I have to say, that doesn’t equate to me being the reason for how someone treats their encounters. If so, what would this problem be? What and why am I the reason specifically, for this. You tell me. My guess is: you don’t know. You’re just talking out of your ass. So you can go have a seat on it ✋?

 

BUT, since you know it all and have the answers to my “problems”...I just had an example today of exactly what I referred to. 1 client who’ve I met before, we were just chatting yesterday (Saturday) about arranging something. He says he will get back to me Monday. Today (surprise, surprise), he texts me; what’s going on. Then says he’s free for a couple hours, but that might not be enough time. And it wasn’t. I need time to get ready and get to him, there’s no way I could have made that happen. So, the meet didn’t happen, and he says he has to check back on what day he can due to; etc etc.

 

Now, that’s not picking on him...but that’s the stuff I refer to that starts to set things on the wrong path. It was last minute, then he don’t know when/how etc. I told him, had I known yesterday you were going to be free for a couple hours this afternoon, I would have already been there. I’m not going to get mad at him right now, because I think we can sort it out...But if it becomes a pattern, it will create friction.

 

He seems like a timewaster. In my business I encounter them all the time. I don’t waste too much thought on them.

[samhexum]

How about a loyalty program? 5% off after 5 hires, 10% after 10.

 

 

I think you should simply move and [sic] the market there isn’t fruitful enough. May experience a big swing in money with a location change.

 

Try a state with a lot of Republican congressmen. ?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

He seems like a timewaster. In my business I encounter them all the time. I don’t waste too much thought on them.

 

Well now you see, I wasn’t just making shit up to seem like I’m doing something wrong. This is what they’re giving me. Now granted, I could just cut him off and go ghost at your suggestion, but I don’t always have that luxury when I...

 

A) don’t have enough new inquires locally and

B) not getting many regulars when I do.

 

And that’s the point I was making. I had one regular guy book a session the day of or day before maybe, and then cancels just hours prior saying he doesn’t get paid until next week. At that point, I was done. And that wasn’t the 1st time he bullshitted me.

 

Then there’s 2 others in the area I’ve reached out to reschedule, they seemed up for it...then don’t return messages or don’t follow up.

[+ keroscenefire]

I think it's possible also that a lot of clients are being a little more careful because of COVID and the holidays. I know I've had some regulars reach out to me recently and I've been telling them I am not available to meet right now. One reached out a couple days before Thanksgiving but I had plans to have dinner with my immediate family (just my sibling and parents) for Thanksgiving so I was trying to be particularly careful. Did a COVID test on Monday and really trying to avoid any significant contact with anyone the several days before the dinner. So I told him that I couldn't meet. I think I will likely have to do something similar the weeks or two going into Christmas. I'm not super-afraid of COVID since I already had it but definitely don't want to pass it to my family members.

 

I know it's hard for everyone in the industry right now, but I think I will likely be hiring more in the new year. Not only because the vaccine is likely coming soon, but because it will be after the holidays and I'd feel more comfortable with meeting since I wouldn't worry as much about spreading it to any family members. Good luck to you and hopefully it won't be too long before business picks up again.

[+ nycman]

Business 101:

 

When good customers don’t come to your store.....it’s not the customers that are the problem.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I think it's possible also that a lot of clients are being a little more careful because of COVID and the holidays. I know I've had some regulars reach out to me recently and I've been telling them I am not available to meet right now. One reached out a couple days before Thanksgiving but I had plans to have dinner with my immediate family (just my sibling and parents) for Thanksgiving so I was trying to be particularly careful. Did a COVID test on Monday and really trying to avoid any significant contact with anyone the several days before the dinner. So I told him that I couldn't meet. I think I will likely have to do something similar the weeks or two going into Christmas. I'm not super-afraid of COVID since I already had it but definitely don't want to pass it to my family members.

 

I know it's hard for everyone in the industry right now, but I think I will likely be hiring more in the new year. Not only because the vaccine is likely coming soon, but because it will be after the holidays and I'd feel more comfortable with meeting since I wouldn't worry as much about spreading it to any family members. Good luck to you and hopefully it won't be too long before business picks up again.

 

Thats all understandable. It only seems to reason that COVID stuff isn’t helping. I just don’t know to what extent, but having insiders info into what you have described, helps make sense that it really may be something outside of our control. I know the times leading up to COVID, I had a guy want to rebook me while he was visiting SW Florida, but he had to wrap it early as the shows were being cut.

 

 

Business 101:

 

When good customers don’t come to your store.....it’s not the customers that are the problem.

 

Please don’t use inaccurate clichés. I never said I don’t get good customers. I never said the customers are the problem. I’m just stating my experience, and what it leaves me wondering.

 

Notice what I said in the initial thread: gain MORE regulars. Not gain good clients. Not gain regulars. But MORE regulars. As in, I have them, but it’s not the extent that I would imagine I should have, considering the level of service I give. Hell, I even had 1 give me 5 star review...but he hasn’t rebooked and flaked over Labor Day weekend. He even had another client ask him, about me. I’m not mad at him, but it’s just like... could the money/payment part really be a defining hurdle? Is it that perhaps people don’t mind paying for something the 1st time, but figure afterwards...a new quest abounds?

 

I mean let’s just be 100% real: How well or bad could a buy 1, get one free next time, work in gaining more regulars? Anyone with real life experience on it?

Edited December 7, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jeezifonly]

Despite the thirst as I shop the specimens discussed here, I am distancing very rigidly, so to speak. My only exposure since the Ides of March would be some freak thing from going to Trader Joe’s and I have tested neg 2x.

 

Mid Nov I was ready to arrange something and text a new masseur I’ve done due diligence on. Then...

Rona numbers in LA spiked, are still climbing. Not time yet. ?. Vaccine will help. Like waiting for nylons at end of WWII.

 

As just one client, I find I mostly want the thrill of the new (about 75% of what I spend) but occasionally I’m wanting familiar male company where we each have some prior knowledge of likes. Personal risk assessment has said to me, “choose one”

 

You know what? I miss chatting in person with strangers about random stuff, listening for what makes them laugh, or attempting to charm wait staff. I miss being alert to first touch, and discovery of new contours, and the rush of the reveal of new peen... In light of how the majority of us have been living for months, I may speak for many who’ve had nothing but “familiar company” for too long.

 

So, in a way it actually is you, @Jarrod_Uncut

(Not who you are... just who you aren’t) ?

[jtwalker]

The one time I really became regular, the escort made me feel like a friend.

 

- He was excited to see me.

- He never rushed anything.

- If he kept time, I have no idea how. I always left of my own free will.

- There was never a hard stop after a climax; instead, he usually insisted I lay back down and hang out.

- A few times, when he didn't have other plans before or after, he wanted to hang out and grab a meal without ever asking me to pay for extra time. I sometimes did anyway and always bought his meal.

 

I'm convinced that he not only referred to his clients as friends, but that is how he actually saw them. In his profile, he said his job was to make you forget it was a business transaction, and nobody does a better job.

 

Gaining regulars requires a lot of work... at least in my case, and most guys simply can't or won't make the investment. Even in my business, which has nothing to do with this, the best regular clients are the ones who see and trust you as a friend.

[jtwalker]

Second side of the coin, top 10 reasons I won't repeat:

 

10) A one hour massage lasts 40 minutes at best.

9) Whenever any escort announces I have 5 minutes left or a timer goes off.

8) A stone wall forms around the escort after climax.

7) They won't do the things they list as likes in their profile.

6) They are 10 years older than their pictures.

5) When I show up, they don't remember a single thing we discussed ahead of time.

4) Escorts that request up-front payment.

3) Escorts that show up stoned.

2) Their room, or their person is filthy.

1) The escort cannot even sort of pretend to be glad you are there.

[+ Pensant]

Second side of the coin, top 10 reasons I won't repeat:

 

10) A one hour massage lasts 40 minutes at best.

9) Whenever any escort announces I have 5 minutes left or a timer goes off.

8) A stone wall forms around the escort after climax.

7) They won't do the things they list as likes in their profile.

6) They are 10 years older than their pictures.

5) When I show up, they don't remember a single thing we discussed ahead of time.

4) Escorts that request up-front payment.

3) Escorts that show up stoned.

2) Their room, or their person is filthy.

1) The escort cannot even sort of pretend to be glad you are there.

Fortunately, over the years, I’ve rarely experienced those attributes, but completely agree that any of them would rule out future meetings.

[jtwalker]

Fortunately, over the years, I’ve rarely experienced those attributes, but completely agree that any of them would rule out future meetings.

 

That's amazing! All of these have happened to me at least once.

[+ Pensant]

That's amazing! All of these have happened to me at least once.

Luckily, I have a discerning eye!