How to know when a comment is a review?

[+ 7829V]

Is there a way to know when your comment can be considered a review?

 

I know reviews are not allowed in the forums... but sometimes is not clear to me how to tell apart a comment about your experience vs a review... is it by the number of words? by the elements you describe?

[+ Coolwave35]

Is there a way to know when your comment can be considered a review?

 

I know reviews are not allowed in the forums... but sometimes is not clear to me how to tell apart a comment about your experience vs a review... is it by the number of words? by the elements you describe?

 

what a good question. I’ve often times left “comments” feeling coy and unhelpful because I didn’t want it to be flagged for a review.

[+ FrankR]

Is there a way to know when your comment can be considered a review?

 

I know reviews are not allowed in the forums... but sometimes is not clear to me how to tell apart a comment about your experience vs a review... is it by the number of words? by the elements you describe?

The terms and rules for this forum indicate that it is a judgement call. If you go into detail about your experience (who, did what, when, where and how) it is likely to be considered a review. If you keep it short and just give a confirmation that you met, that you would recommend it will likely be considered a recommendation and not a review. ?

[big-n-tall]

If you say something really simplistic like, I met x and he was a great hire. You should be fine. If you say something more detailed as @FrankR suggested you're in full review territory.

 

I also think you can give your account of a incident where the meeting didn't occur and it is not considered a review. Especially if you do not name the escort who may have stood you up. I think it may be a little more acceptable in this case because in general no show reviews are not put on the review side.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Guy Fawkes

[rvwnsd]

I use the same standard we use for work attire. If you have to ask "is this appropriate for the office," well...

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I also think you can give your account of a incident where the meeting didn't occur and it is not considered a review. Especially if you do not name the escort who may have stood you up. I think it may be a little more acceptable in this case because in general no show reviews are not put on the review side.

 

That is my understanding as well.

[+ Lucky]

I have had several escorts and masseurs not show up to my house, but I didn't write about it here. Not once. You see, I hadn't hired them. Who can afford that experience these days?

[+ Charlie]

A review is basically a report of a specific meeting with an escort, just as a theater review would be of a specific performance.

[rvwnsd]

Another option is to report your own post and ask whether it crosses the line. I did that with a reply that could have been construed as being political. When reporting myself I said something like "if this is considered political please delete it rather than moving the entire thread to the Politics forum."

[xyz48B]

I also think you can give your account of a incident where the meeting didn't occur and it is not considered a review. Especially if you do not name the escort who may have stood you up. I think it may be a little more acceptable in this case because in general no show reviews are not put on the review side.

I generally find the posts with red flags are helpful than detailed descriptions about what happened. Tell me why to be wary but keep the details of your tryst between you and Mr. Escort.

[xyz48B]

I use the same standard we use for work attire. If you have to ask "is this appropriate for the office," well...

Perhaps. There seems to be ambiguity about crosses the line, and some people are more sensitive to it than others. Some people are completely oblivious. Others may hold back for fear of violating rules when in fact they wouldn’t have. A clearer definition would be helpful, particularly as it comes to bear on reporting on less-than-positive experiences.

[MscleLovr]

A clearer definition would be helpful, particularly as it comes to bear on reporting on less-than-positive experiences.

 

I feel that any clear-cut definition would be impossible. The rule of No Reviews was brought in, as I recall the history, after the crackdown on Rentboy; the rule is intended to protect the site from unwelcome attention by the authorities.

 

I believe it’s useful and allowed to say things like “I’m a total bottom and he made me very happy” or “I’m a total top and we were very compatible”. I think that details can better be conveyed in private messages.

[xyz48B]

I think that details can better be conveyed in private messages.

In a sense, while I get the logic of wanting to avoid the “authorities,” that defeats the general express purpose of a (semi) public forum.

 

Honest question: how is a review here any different than a review on the associated site Daddy’s?

 

I have in the past spoken negatively here about a particular escort whom other members came to the defense for and had particular examples of positive interactions that were supposed to negate my own poor experience. Said escort joined in the discussion even. To me, that’s a review in action. How was that experience different?

 

Vague language like “I’m a bottom and we had a good time,” to my estimation, is unnecessary and actually unhelpful and it won’t protect anyone from the authorities anymore than the pseudo political mumbo jumbo some escorts put at the bottom of their ads about all money exchanged is for time. We all know what’s going on, and we all know what “I’m a bottom and we had a good time” means.

[MscleLovr]

We all know what’s going on

 

Yes @xyz48B I agree that we can all read ‘between the lines’. That’s the beauty of not making explicit and specific comments. Such descriptions may make the site-owner liable to legal sanctions.

 

And again as I understand it, there is no “associated site”. This forum is not linked to a review site. AFAIK the owner of this site may or may not own another site.

 

I find this forum very useful, but then I don’t hire escorts. If you feel strongly about this @xyz48B, and are unconcerned about US legal sanctions, why not start your own website with specific, detailed reviews?

[xyz48B]

I find this forum very useful, but then I don’t hire escorts. If you feel strongly about this @xyz48B, and are unconcerned about US legal sanctions, why not start your own website with specific, detailed reviews?

I don’t feel strongly about it. And after my last experience (cf. above) giving feedback only to have it discredited, I’m not going to likely say anything positive or negative about any escort experience in this forum.

[rvwnsd]

I feel that any clear-cut definition would be impossible. The rule of No Reviews was brought in, as I recall the history, after the crackdown on Rentboy; the rule is intended to protect the site from unwelcome attention by the authorities....

The rule dates back to long before the Rentboy shutdown. It is intended to ensure an escort has an opportunity to provide a response to a review. It also serves to ensure that reviews are submitted to the review site, where they belong.

[xyz48B]

It also serves to ensure that reviews are submitted to the review site, where they belong.

If the review site (unaffiliated with this forum) is where they belong, what is the purpose of a 411 post?

 

Perhaps I misunderstand a review. Is that for a detailed description of what happened and your assessment? Or can a review be “He was great. Five stars.” It seems to me that both are reviews. One just includes salacious bits.

[+ Charlie]

A review on Daddy's site is supposed to be about one meeting with the escort, on a given date, and if the description contains negative details about the meeting, the escort is contacted and given an opportunity to respond. If a post on this site seems to fit those parameters, it will probably be considered a review.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Charlie

[xyz48B]

So verboten here is a negative assessment of a particular time with an escort because the escort doesn’t have as much opportunity to refute the claim? We’ve established the “no reviews” policy predates the Rentboy scare. So it’s not related to that. “No reviews” is more like “no negative public assessment” because the escort isn’t afforded as much opportunity here to counter it. Do I understand?

Edited September 18, 2020 by xyz48B

[+ Charlie]

The review site was structured so that the administration could verify the legitimacy of the review, and if the reviewer made claims about what happened at the meeting that reflected negatively on the escort, the escort could be contacted and given a chance to reply to the review. In this site, however, anyone can join and post unvetted comments about an escort, which the escort may not be aware of, if he is not a member, so they would pass unchallenged. Therefore, if a post here seems to be a review that makes claims about negative behavior by an escort during a meeting, the poster is directed to submit a review to the other site instead of posting it on the Message Board.

[xyz48B]

The review site was structured so that the administration could verify the legitimacy of the review, and if the reviewer made claims about what happened at the meeting that reflected negatively on the escort, the escort could be contacted and given a chance to reply to the review. In this site, however, anyone can join and post unvetted comments about an escort, which the escort may not be aware of, if he is not a member, so they would pass unchallenged. Therefore, if a post here seems to be a review that makes claims about negative behavior by an escort during a meeting, the poster is directed to submit a review to the other site instead of posting it on the Message Board.

So, yes. “No reviews” is more like “no negative public assessment” because the escort isn’t afforded as much opportunity here to counter it.

[xyz48B]

We can laud them all we like, though?

[+ Charlie]

So, yes. “No reviews” is more like “no negative public assessment” because the escort isn’t afforded as much opportunity here to counter it.

"No negative public assessment" is too vague. No negative claims about the writer's personal experience with the escort.

[xyz48B]

"No negative public assessment" is too vague. No negative claims about the writer's personal experience with the escort.

Perhaps let’s put a finer point on it – nothing negative.

[+ FrankR]

Perhaps let’s put a finer point on it – nothing negative.

Instead of (purposefully!) misinterpreting what @Charlie said, perhaps reflect upon your own words to a fellow forum member earlier this week:

You’ve made up your mind you don’t need (want) to understand.

It sounds like you have also made up your mind on this topic. ??‍♂️