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[Sedtruik]

Seen a provider few times in SF for $120/hour. MT and HE but not nude. Didn’t bring up to him re nude at all. Just have been playing it by ear. As we started last time, he said that he could be nude for $50 extra. This seems high to me in SF for just nude/MT/HE. I don’t want more and so didn’t press what $ really meant.

 

He knows I can pay given what he knows re me, so I think he’s capitalizing on the market (which I get and understand), but just wanted to see if you guys agree I’m not crazy. Thanks for your thoughts.

[+ 7829V]

And what’s your question? I think it was not clear to me. Maybe I missed it.

Seen a provider few times in SF for $120/hour. MT and HE but not nude. Didn’t bring up to him re nude at all. Just have been playing it by ear. As we started last time, he said that he could be nude for $50 extra. This seems high to me in SF for just nude/MT/HE. I don’t want more and so didn’t press what $ really meant.

 

He knows I can pay given what he knows re me, so I think he’s capitalizing on the market (which I get and understand), but just wanted to see if you guys agree I’m not crazy. Thanks for your thoughts.

[Sedtruik]

Question is - is $50 bump high in your opinion for just nude? I think so but wanted to see if I was wrong.... thanks

[Capitano]

I am not sure about the bump but I absolutely expect my masseur to be comfortable being naked with me AND being touched if he charges $160 an hour. It's a deal breaker if this is not the case. Moreover, at that rate, he'd better be a very good masseur and hot too. If one of these two is not the case, the fair rate in my book goes down to $140 or lower. I will tip generously if all goes as planned but a tip is an extra and not an entitlement.

 

I have no use for HE or MT if the masseur is not ready to be naked with me. Then it's a strictly therapeutic massage for which the top rate is $100.

[+ 7829V]

Question is - is $50 bump high in your opinion for just nude? I think so but wanted to see if I was wrong.... thanks

When they try to up charge mid session is bad practice. They should disclose it before the session.

 

And $170 is in the normal-high side range.

[Becket]

Yea, that would really get my goat. I hate it when a provider tries to upsell me like I'm renting a car. "For two hundred more you can get leather!" Once had a guy tell me I'd have to pay an extra fifty if I sucked HIS. Gimme a break! If you want the guy to get neeked, ask him to get neeked. Otherwise move on. Life is too short.

[Redwine56]

Seen a provider few times in SF for $120/hour. MT and HE but not nude. Didn’t bring up to him re nude at all. Just have been playing it by ear. As we started last time, he said that he could be nude for $50 extra. This seems high to me in SF for just nude/MT/HE. I don’t want more and so didn’t press what $ really meant.

 

He knows I can pay given what he knows re me, so I think he’s capitalizing on the market (which I get and understand), but just wanted to see if you guys agree I’m not crazy. Thanks for your thoughts.

@Sedrruik - you are absolutely not crazy. I would have said to him . . Now that you bring it up, I've been thinking all along that you should have been massaging me naked at the current $120 price.

[Scott Dixon]

I think $50 is too much to see him naked.

[Lchnsf]

If you are a regular you would think he would offer some kind of discount or package rate which would put cash in his pocket. An up charge for nude seems a bit entitled (unless he is porn star hot!)

[cany10011]

I think because he was non nude with the initial massage, he feels he can ask for more for the ”additional service”. Otherwise, i think it might have been best to be establish that nudity is important to you prior to your initial meet. Now, any additional requests would feel like, pardon the words, scope creep.

[dcman]

Total turn off to me. I like guys who actually enjoy being nude. There are lots of better choices out there.

[orville]

Seen a provider few times in SF for $120/hour. MT and HE but not nude. Didn’t bring up to him re nude at all. Just have been playing it by ear. As we started last time, he said that he could be nude for $50 extra. This seems high to me in SF for just nude/MT/HE. I don’t want more and so didn’t press what $ really meant.

 

He knows I can pay given what he knows re me, so I think he’s capitalizing on the market (which I get and understand), but just wanted to see if you guys agree I’m not crazy. Thanks for your thoughts.

I don't know what kind of HE are you having with him wearing clothes on but an additional charge for seeing/touching him nude would depend on what he looks like. If you can't post his ad link here just post an image of his body (the fewer clothes the better) to give us some context.

[Bluefin]

In SF $120-$130/hr is the going rate for all the bells and whistles.

 

For $170/hr it better be one of the best massage experiences you’ve had.

[Dallas Jayson]

Question is - is $50 bump high in your opinion for just nude? I think so but wanted to see if I was wrong.... thanks

Yes, it is, and more than that, I am from the "ups&extras" and I am out camp - it's just not good business! Period.

[Capitano]

If you are a regular you would think he would offer some kind of discount or package rate which would put cash in his pocket. An up charge for nude seems a bit entitled (unless he is porn star hot!)

 

Some people are takers and some are givers. A giver will appreciate regular customers and throw in extras, whether it's more time, nice chat before or after, or some extra connection during the massage. A taker will infer from the repeat business that he is leaving too much value on the table and try to extract more. He'll keep pushing or cutting corners until he finds the limit, at which point it's over, the client is alienated and isn't coming back.

 

Things are of course made better or worse depending on whether one likes or dislikes what he does, and further complicated by the fact that the client can also be a giver or a taker.

[Monarchy79]

Bottom Line:

The dude is trying to hustle you.

 

Take your money elsewhere. Plenty of masseurs drop those briefs without the haggling.

[CatDaddy]

This guy is a grifter... call someone else.

[nylund]

How do you MT if he wasn't naked?

[xyz48B]

Massages I’ve had were us both naked, 60 minutes, $185, I suspect to make tipping to $200 easier and logical.

[xyz48B]

This guy is a grifter

This is a new term for me. In the last few days in fact. Did I miss something?

[Redwine56]

The definition of a 'grifter' is someone who engages in petty or small-scale swindling. There was a movie in 1990 with the title "The Grifters". Basically con artists.

[Sedtruik]

How do you MT if he wasn't naked?

 

just feeling him up.

Thanks for everyone’s feedback! Helpful x10!

[Bluefin]

The definition of a 'grifter' is someone who engages in petty or small-scale swindling. There was a movie in 1990 with the title "The Grifters". Basically con artists.

 

Aside: such a good movie.

[xyz48B]

I did not see that movie.

[Redwine56]

I did not see that movie.

That's because you are a young pup half my age. You can probably dig it up somewhere if you want to see it.