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I’m quite sure @ericwinters that you know the answer is “it depends”. Factors would be any inclusion of a meal (lunch/dinner) in the 6 hour date and what physical activity is foreseen (multiple bouts of sex) versus sleeping time in the overnight date.

 

That said, I’d expect in the US the 6hour date would run about $1000 and an overnight $1000-1500. Note: I haven’t hired in years; and I’d expect the very best-looking guys to command higher rates.

 

As @Quincy_7 notes above, rates can be much lower in Latin America but you’d have to provide a good dinner and possibly take the guy shopping afterwards. In the majority of Western European countries, overnight rates wouldn't be much less

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I’ve hired overnights here in Canada and once last fall in NYC. The rates here average from $1000 to $1500 plus dinner and breakfast plus travel if that is involved. In NYC the rate I paid was at the higher end for a pornstar but I did 2 nights where he had other things to do in the day. We did dinners and breakfasts which ran into some serious money too as the breakfast itself was $30 each at the hotel we were staying in. The dinners ran upwards of $300 each night. The most I have paid for travel was to fly an escort in from SF. But that was for 2 nights and days spent with me. Again add in $$ for eating well.

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Ive never hired an overnight service.

I doubt that I ever would, unless we had met successfully several times, had some mutual interests outside of sex with men, and a great personal chemistry close to friendship. If I feel like my desired outcome with a provider require more time, I may ask for up to 2 hrs at full hourly rate. The provider may offer something of a deal for multi hours, but before I even send the first text I assume that I will pay per hour as advertised. I will often book a 90m massage because that’s how it benefits me the most - a lot of masseurs and even spas advertise a rate for that duration. If massage is not part of our time together I never start with more than an hour. If we’ve both had a good time with that, I may ask for more next time.

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You’re absolutely right @jeezifonly. A client should never hire for an overnight date without first taking a test-drive for an hour or two. But the OP was asking for numbers; can you help by talking about current rates you’ve paid?

 

And @ffdave is right too about exceptional men asking much higher rates. Years ago, I got to know a very handsome muscleboy in LA - he asked $350 an hour and $1750 overnight way back then. I messaged him about any flexibility and he asked me to phone him and talk. We ended up talking 2-3x a week as he was interested in visiting me in Europe. When I met him in LA, we had a lot of fun together and we had 3 overnight dates in the first week as I paid the agreed $1000 each time. Now if he’d insisted on the full $1750, I might well have thought “I’ve scratched that itch” and not repeated.

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I'm not sure what the pandemic has done for the market, but I think the majority of you guys are on the low side. Quality talent has been running 1,200-1,500 pretty regularly the last few years with the elite talent in the 2,000+ range (they will discount for multiple nights) Now if you are talking about vacation company..as in would you like to go to X with me...things get real flexible. All the guys above are right go for a test drive! It can be a long night or a long vacation. Also dinner and a long session or the reverse is often better.. everyone gets a much better night's sleep.

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Regulars are generally $900 - $1,000 for an overnight. Occasionally $1,200. $300 per hour providers are usually $500 for two hours. My overnights usually begin around 8 and end around 8 or 9 in the morning, since I’m eager to get started on my new day. Dinner seldom happens, except for weekends.

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In this pandemic, I really haven't seen any price breaks either. You'd think that business wouldn't be that good, and they'd be offering "COVID specials"! LOL

 

 

I haven't hired during the pandemic, so I don't really know. I was curious what was happening with rates, though, so I did a search on RM and limited by a rate of 200.00 or less . I was astonished at the number of hits and the overall quality

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What is the going rate for 24hrs/full day with an established guy?

 

You’ll have to communicate with the guy you’re interested in to find out. As the posts in this forum topic clearly show, rates vary from provider to provider. Just because a group of guys charge x amount for service, doesn’t mean every provider will charge that same amount.

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Overnight rates frequently depend on whether or not the escort likes them. Let's say an escort charges $300 per hour and $1,500 for an overnight. This is a pretty good indication that he is not terribly interested in doing overnights. In order to equal his $1,500 overnight fee he would have to do 5 one hour appointments at $300 in one day or evening -- not terribly likely on a regular basis. Even if he charged $900 for an overnight he would have to do 3 regular one hour appointments to equal that amount. An overnight usually includes dinner and breakfast so those are added benefits. However, if the escort doesn't enjoy that extended period of intimacy with a client, and some don't, the hourly to overnight ratio is meaningless. Some escorts prefer one hour slam/bang one hour in and out appointments they don't want to be bothered with the extended togetherness of overnights. Thus they set a very high fee for overnights with the expectation that they won't be doing many.

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they set a very high fee for overnights with the expectation that they won't be doing many.

 

I don’t disagree with you @Epigonos. But I’ve also found a variation in expectations.

 

I had several dates with a 21year old blond muscleboy before I suggested an overnight. He shocked me with his rate and I knew him well enough to ask why. He explained that he’d only done 1 overnight before, and that was with a fit guy in his late 20s, and he charged $2000 because the guy topped him 5-6x during the night and also wanted morning sex! I envisaged that I would top him before dinner, then we’d sleep until he gave me a morning blowjob - he immediately said Great and lowered his rate to $700. He actually gave me a midnight blowjob too, so I gave him $800…and we had many dates afterwards.

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I would only ask regulars for an overnight, weekend, or vacation. Since my regulars know I'm a nice, easy to please guy who isn't clingy, the price is lower.

 

If you reach out to some RM star you never met before, it's going to be a lot higher.

 

Don't expect the current recession to lower rates just yet. Wait for the full implications of the lost unemployment benefits to kick in. Also watch for when local rent freezes expire. The full effects of the recession won't be felt until upcoming months, when the 40% of "furloughed " workers realize they're never going back.

 

And don't expect discounts from foreign visitors, especially those from Europe. Unlike the U.S., those countries actually know how to handle recessions and health care.

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I would only ask regulars for an overnight, weekend, or vacation. Since my regulars know I'm a nice, easy to please guy who isn't clingy, the price is lower.

 

If you reach out to some RM star you never met before, it's going to be a lot higher.

 

Don't expect the current recession to lower rates just yet. Wait for the full implications of the lost unemployment benefits to kick in. Also watch for when local rent freezes expire. The full effects of the recession won't be felt until upcoming months, when the 40% of "furloughed " workers realize they're never going back.

 

And don't expect discounts from foreign visitors, especially those from Europe. Unlike the U.S., those countries actually know how to handle recessions and health care.

True enough but if what you say comes true, the foreign escorts visiting will be facing some new price competition. OTOH, we’re not talking about fungible assets here, we’re talking about individuals and their unique characteristics. If we’re comparing apples and oranges, and someone really wants the orange, they will pay more for it. Economics 101.

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Overnight rates frequently depend on whether or not the escort likes them. Let's say an escort charges $300 per hour and $1,500 for an overnight. This is a pretty good indication that he is not terribly interested in doing overnights. In order to equal his $1,500 overnight fee he would have to do 5 one hour appointments at $300 in one day or evening -- not terribly likely on a regular basis. Even if he charged $900 for an overnight he would have to do 3 regular one hour appointments to equal that amount. An overnight usually includes dinner and breakfast so those are added benefits. However, if the escort doesn't enjoy that extended period of intimacy with a client, and some don't, the hourly to overnight ratio is meaningless. Some escorts prefer one hour slam/bang one hour in and out appointments they don't want to be bothered with the extended togetherness of overnights. Thus they set a very high fee for overnights with the expectation that they won't be doing many.

I’ve only met one escort who charged an exorbitant fee for an overnight at his place and that was because he told me that he didn’t really want someone staying overnight with him. I hired him for 2 hours and was very pleased. He had a very nice condo worth over $1million in Toronto’s overheated real estate market and had a separate play room apart from his own bedroom. It all made sense when I saw his setup.

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I had 2 over nights last fall..both in Europe...Barcelona and Paris....I made the arrangements ahead of time and gave the price I expected to pay...We had dinner out....went for a long walk afterwards and the back to my flat...I paid $1200 Euros each time. Both were with TimTales Porn actors...We had a great time and I'd do it again..if we ever can travel to Spain and France again... I have real expectations and always talk first about my needs and wants before meeting.

Both men were very pleased with our arrangements..

I find it's much easier to "rent" in Europe..I've tried in NYC and usually get an inflated price until I say thanks..maybe another time...That's when they would try to bargain....

Just be up front ...polite and know what you want before....

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