Rentmen verification

[FunGuyUS]

I just renewed my monthly permium client membership on RM and they asked for me to make a copy of my Credit Card and ID and write on a peice of paper that i authorize the charge. If I don't they will delete my account. Has this happen to anyone else?

 

Not sure if thus us the right forum for this question

 

thanks

[+ pitman]

Sounds suspicious to me. I wouldn't do it.

[jawjateck]

Never happened to me. I would not comply. If that's their new policy, they would lose all future revenue from me.

[harlow]

I just renewed my monthly permium client membership on RM and they asked for me to make a copy of my Credit Card and ID and write on a peice of paper that i authorize the charge. If I don't they will delete my account. Has this happen to anyone else?

 

Not sure if thus us the right forum for this question

 

thanks

Scam scam scam

[+ azdr0710]

They've been auto-billing me for a few years with no problems or requests. I never "renew". Have you thought about an auto-bill option?

[Daverwr]

I had to update my credit card that rm uses for premium membership and provider gifts. They did that for me also. I had to show my credit card and passport. I assumed it was based on them being overseas. I’ve been giving rm my money for years, so it doesn’t concern me. They had my credit information forever.

[marylander1940]

I had to update my credit card that rm uses for premium membership and provider gifts. They did that for me also. I had to show my credit card and passport. I assumed it was based on them being overseas. I’ve been giving rm my money for years, so it doesn’t concern me. They had my credit information forever.

 

Damn!

 

Must be a new policy, it will hurt them at least in this puritanical side of the Atlantic as pointed by @hypothetically folks in Europe don't care.

[KinkyNEguy]

Visa and MasterCard have rules in their merchant agreements about the ID issue. The latest I have read is that they may request to see ID (the copy at hand) but not refuse the transaction ( so long as the card is signed). So it seems RM could reasonably ask for a copy of both sides of the credit card, but not the license. Your card would need to be signed for online purchases.

 

It is interesting that for in-person transactions with chipped cards processed via terminal, the signature on the back of card is no longer required, though that is not widely understood by merchants. This was a result of signatures not being required for transactions under $50.00 (this level may have changed in the past two years).

 

RM requested this of me twice over the past 8 years. I do get that merchants often are screwed over by fraud, as are we the customer. I might not comply for a new vendor, but as Daverw implies for his experience, I don't think RM is trying to scam me, so I would likely just send it rather than spend a lot of time with it.

 

(this does seem more Loungey than Deli no?)

[coriolis888]

 

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RM requested this of me twice over the past 8 years. I do get that merchants often are screwed over by fraud, as are we the customer. I might not comply with a new vendor, but as Daverw implies for his experience, I don't think RM is trying to scam me, so I would likely just send it rather than spend a lot of time with it.

 

 

You are very trusting.

 

I wonder how many rentmen customers are comfortable knowing their identification is photocopied and left on file with a sex site.

 

Those with a sensitive occupation could possibly have this come back to negatively haunt them in the future.

[KinkyNEguy]

You are very trusting.

 

I get what you are saying, and I am really not very trusting. But I have seen that this information is already readily available on the internet. Pictures, address information, occupation. If you are willing to pay, you get even more information. We already have surrendered so much, the horse is out of the barn. I acknowledge that my perspective comes from being pretty forward with who I am everywhere, and that I am a rich white guy. Privileged to the extent I don't have to worry. Your point is very valid for those in other circumstances.

[coriolis888]

 

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I acknowledge that my perspective comes from being pretty forward with who I am everywhere and that I am a rich white guy. Privileged to the extent I don't have to worry. Your point is very valid for those in other circumstances.

 

 

It is the "rich white guy" that is more at risk for blackmail and worse than those not so comfortable.

 

There is no logical reason for rentmen to have a copy of a customer's identification. Not even airlines ask for that and they collect thousands of dollars from customers via credit card to transport them around the world.

[KinkyNEguy]

There is no reason for them to have it. That is what underlies the new merchant agreements. This is a result of some of those mega breaches we have all seen in the past decade. But all the information is already out there and it isn't going away.

 

I have also had providers attempt to blackmail me with video they have secretly taken, most recently last summer. So the risk of blackmail is broader than credit card information. I disagree that being rich places you in a worse stance. It always gives you better resources to combat dangers in this world.

[coriolis888]

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Never happened to me. I would not comply. If that's their new policy, they would lose all future revenue from me.

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Good reaction from you.

 

Loss of future revenue to rentmen would be a great way to have them stop that foolish and invasive policy.

[+ jeezopete]

I have also had providers attempt to blackmail me with video they have secretly taken, most recently last summer.

OUCH!! Have you outed them on here somewhere so that other clients are aware??

[KinkyNEguy]

He can't see clients where he is........ .

[FunGuyUS]

Hi all

I wrote back to them and asked why, as a client, they were asking for this information.

 

This is their response.

 

Hello,

 

Thank you for contacting us.

 

Be advised that the requested verification is removed and you don't need to

take any steps to verify your payment.

[FunGuyUS]

They've been auto-billing me for a few years with no problems or requests. I never "renew". Have you thought about an auto-bill option?

I don't auto bill because I don't always

keep the premium level active

[+ Gar1eth]

My membership was just renewed, and they didn't ask me for that info.

 

Gman

[coriolis888]

Hi all

I wrote back to them and asked why, as a client, they were asking for this information.

 

This is their response.

 

Hello,

 

Thank you for contacting us.

 

Be advised that the requested verification is removed and you don't need to

take any steps to verify your payment.

 

 

 

Great - job well done.

 

I cannot even guess how much revenue they would have lost if they had kept that invasive rule for customers of their site.

Edited June 15, 2020 by coriolis888

[marylander1940]

My membership was just renewed, and they didn't ask me for that info.

 

Gman

 

Maybe you signed up a long time ago...

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

In the financial industry, we see customers fall prey to this type of scam all the time. It usually happens when an email has been hacked and the hacker is rerouting traffic through its site to get the victims' personal information.

 

Look at the email address for the response to see if it was from xxx@rentmen.com. Many times the spammer's email will show in your in box as the name of the valid business; however, when you look at the actual email address it will be something like, "rentmen-admin@imstealingyouridentity.com."

[+ Pensant]

There is no reason for them to have it. That is what underlies the new merchant agreements. This is a result of some of those mega breaches we have all seen in the past decade. But all the information is already out there and it isn't going away.

 

I have also had providers attempt to blackmail me with video they have secretly taken, most recently last summer. So the risk of blackmail is broader than credit card information. I disagree that being rich places you in a worse stance. It always gives you better resources to combat dangers in this world.

Sorry to hear of the blackmail, which seems quite rare in this pastime. Were you at the provider’s place?

[KinkyNEguy]

@Pensant Thank you for the kind concern. I agree, it is far more rare than I ever expected it to be. Especially considering the huge income disparity between most of the players. I have been enjoying our hobby for some 25 years now on a monthly basis and that was the first significant attempt. A couple of times in the past it has been casually implied, almost as a test, but with no follow through.

 

After discovering him, we arranged to meet at Starbucks as I do with new folks. Normally, I then set up a hotel because I don’t enjoy the rush, and I like it to be on my own territory. He was enthusiastic, and passed all my usual queries. So I gave him some money to get a hotel (I felt some empathy regarding the temporary homeless situation that he had revealed).

 

I will avoid this being a review, but his performance as a sub was spectacular; enthusiastic and remaining “at attention” all times in scenes that are fairly intense D/S and B/D. He was a hot muscular straight guy, so to perform like that was pretty impressive in my experience. We met again before he began to demand money, and then dropped the threat along with a nice video clip (via text of all places). He was talented in the acts but did not possess very good judgement.

 

Fortunately, I am not vulnerable to this. But it did annoy me, especially as I was already generous; and would likely continue to be even more generous. He would have been a good long term player who I may have even sponsored. To cut to the chase, that attempt ( and the stream of similar texts that followed) was used by the state prosecutor as leverage in order to extract a guilty plea to close felony DV case already underway. He has a two year state paid vacation followed by five years probie. He won’t be seeing clients for a while, and doesn’t have an online presence now.

 

One of the ironic things is that I have already appeared in several short video clips taken with friends on some kink/tube sites over the years. So it would hardly have been the first time such a video showed up online. :-)

[Niles]

I recently got a RM verification notice with a credit card. It was legit. I emailed them to complain and they waived the requirement.

[+ MysticMenace]

One of the ironic things is that I have already appeared in several short video clips taken with friends on some kink/tube sites over the years. So it would hardly have been the first time such a video showed up online.

 

Oh. So if one were to search these kink or tube sites, what key terms should they be searching for to see these video clips? ??