Profile of a Timewaster

[orville]

One of my regular escorts told me that after asking the client some questions like age, ethnicity, and after few message exchanges discussing specs and rate, he already knows who is a timewaster so he will stop responding not caring about the possibility of losing business because the profile is "very consistent". I told him that he might be losing business but he stood by his words. I would like to know the opinion of other working guys.

[Shawn Monroe]

I will say that I don’t tend to ask for age or ethnicity - I have clients of all races, and my clients range from their 20s to their late 80s. I don’t care.

 

But that being said, there are definitely consistencies in communication and you can tell with some level of certainty which clients will turn out to be time wasters as worst or hassles at the least. I will say that I try to give the benefit of the doubt, and I’m sometimes surprised, but a lot of the time you can tell.

 

Now in terms of your friend losing business - it’s possible yes, but taking every inquiry that you get is also Ill-advised. sometimes you must save your sanity. I remember once @Benjamin_Nicholas said “you can’t trip over nickels to pick up pennies” or something similar.

[harlow]

One of my regular escorts told me that after asking the client some questions like age, ethnicity, and after few message exchanges discussing specs and rate, he already knows who is a timewaster so he will stop responding not caring about the possibility of losing business because the profile is "very consistent". I told him that he might be losing business but he stood by his words. I would like to know the opinion of other working guys.

As a client moment you ask me my age and ethnicity is when I know I’m wasting my time with that provider...just saying

[orville]

As a client moment you ask me my age and ethnicity is when I know I’m wasting my time with that provider...just saying

How so? He says it works perfect for him to weed out time-wasters with 90% accuracy.

[harlow]

How so? He says it works perfect for him to weed out time-wasters with 90% accuracy.

True that may work for him. However in my experience as a client the age and ethnicity question has been a way for the escort to weed out clients that he feels are “less desirable”. There are multiple threads on the forum about this.

[orville]

True that may work for him. However in my experience as a client the age and ethnicity question has been a way for the escort to weed out clients that he feels are “less desirable”. There are multiple threads on the forum about this.

I read all the threads and I understand where you come from but he doesn't do it to weed out specific age range or ethnicity but rather for a demographic checklist of a time-waster, according to him. I've seen other escorts requesting this info and I'm proof because I'm not a model and I known they have seen people from all ages, body types and races.

[harlow]

I read all the threads and I understand where you come from but he doesn't do it to weed out specific age range or ethnicity but rather for a demographic checklist of a time-waster, according to him. I've seen other escorts requesting this info and I'm proof because I'm not a model and I known they have seen people from all ages, body types and races.

Not sure how a person’s age or ethnicity is an indicator that they are a time waster...unless he’s using stereotypes...for example the stereotype that Black people are late for appointments. Kinda odd if you ask me.

[orville]

Not sure how a person’s age or ethnicity is an indicator that they are a time waster...unless he’s using stereotypes...for example the stereotype that Black people are late for appointments. Kinda odd if you ask me.

Certainly odd, but I don't know the specifics. You assume he uses only age and ethnicity. I mentioned those as an example of wht he asked me. He's the escort, he's a good at what he does, and asks some other things.

Edited June 8, 2020 by orville

[Smurof]

There's no steadfast way to stereotype anything, including time wasters. The easy rule of thumb to go by is if a million inquiries are being thrown out there from the get-go from a client, THEY AREN'T GOING TO HIRE YOU. That's why so many providers specifically list "no time wasters" in their ad. Ask for the bare minimum to get your point across for a meet-up, then wear the bare minimum when you meet.

[orville]

There's no steadfast way to stereotype anything, including time wasters. The easy rule of thumb to go by is if a million inquiries are being thrown out there from the get-go from a client, THEY AREN'T GOING TO HIRE YOU. That's why so many providers specifically list "no time wasters" in their ad. Ask for the bare minimum to get your point across for a meet-up, then wear the bare minimum when you meet.

What you say is interesting. Kind of borderline a psychological profile. Maybe that's what he does but he didn't want to disclose it. I know he's a smart guy but still he always asks for full stats.

[harlow]

There's no steadfast way to stereotype anything, including time wasters. The easy rule of thumb to go by is if a million inquiries are being thrown out there from the get-go from a client, THEY AREN'T GOING TO HIRE YOU. That's why so many providers specifically list "no time wasters" in their ad. Ask for the bare minimum to get your point across for a meet-up, then wear the bare minimum when you meet.

I’m with you on this one lol

[marylander1940]

One of my regular escorts told me that after asking the client some questions like age, ethnicity, and after few message exchanges discussing specs and rate, he already knows who is a timewaster so he will stop responding not caring about the possibility of losing business because the profile is "very consistent". I told him that he might be losing business but he stood by his words. I would like to know the opinion of other working guys.

 

Most clients are reluctant to answer that kind of questions and if they're not white they're spooked by someone asking their ethnicity and move on to another provider.

 

Believe it or not clients also lie/embellish when they disclose their age and body type even if the escort never ask them. Someone describing himself as a cub might show up 50 lbs heavier at his door.

[harlow]

Most clients are reluctant to answer that kind of questions and if they're not white they're spooked by someone asking their ethnicity and move on to another provider.

 

Believe it or not clients also lie/embellish when they disclose their age and body type even if the escort never ask them. Someone describing himself as a cub might show up 50 lbs heavier at his door.

I think you got it. Honestly it all comes down to how it’s asked. If the first text I receive from you after I have sent you an introduction of myself is what is my ethnicity then yeah I’m moving on. That actually happened a few weeks ago when I was in L.A. that I wrote about that on the forum.

 

Now I don’t see anything wrong with disclosing it myself during our initial conversation. Personally I ask up front if they have any racial or age hang ups to get it out of the way because if you don’t like me for me then you definitely will not be getting my money.

[marylander1940]

I think you got it. Honestly it all comes down to how it’s asked. If the first text I receive from you after I have sent you an introduction of myself is what is my ethnicity then yeah I’m moving on. That actually happened a few weeks ago when I was in L.A. that I wrote about that on the forum.

 

Now I don’t see anything wrong with disclosing it myself during our initial conversation. Personally I ask up front if they have any racial or age hang ups to get it out of the way because if you don’t like me for me then you definitely will not be getting my money.

 

I try! ?

[Shawn Monroe]

I think one thing to remember is that some guys are not always looking for as many clients as possible. Some are looking for enough business to sustain themselves without going crazy.

 

If he screens his clients for age and ethnicity it doesn’t matter if it offends you or not; if his business is sustained from those not offended by it then that is wonderful for him; it’s one less person he has to deal with. It’s the opportunity for one more that isn’t offended, and he’s found enough clients to sustain his business.

[xyz48B]

When hiring for a BFE, I want to know that the experience is going to be compatible for me. That requires some level of communication. If a provider is unwilling to do that, that’s kind of sad. I don’t think asking some questions, especially if you’re asking for kink or role play components makes you a time waster. When I’m shelling out multiple thousands of dollars, I want to know what I’m getting. Anyone can post a pretty picture online...

[orville]

When hiring for a BFE, I want to know that the experience is going to be compatible for me. That requires some level of communication. If a provider is unwilling to do that, that’s kind of sad. I don’t think asking some questions, especially if you’re asking for kink or role play components makes you a time waster. When I’m shelling out multiple thousands of dollars, I want to know what I’m getting. Anyone can post a pretty picture online...

I think @Smurof was referring to a million questions. I suppose an escort will have one reaction to a client looking for kink asking 3 things, and another to a client asking for 15. I personally just look for well reviewed tops so my questions are very limited.

[MrMattBig]

When hiring for a BFE, I want to know that the experience is going to be compatible for me. That requires some level of communication. If a provider is unwilling to do that, that’s kind of sad. I don’t think asking some questions, especially if you’re asking for kink or role play components makes you a time waster. When I’m shelling out multiple thousands of dollars, I want to know what I’m getting. Anyone can post a pretty picture online...

I think @Smurof was referring to a million questions. I suppose an escort will have one reaction to a client looking for kink asking 3 things, and another to a client asking for 15. I personally just look for well reviewed tops so my questions are very limited.

In terms of asking questions, I like when a client tells me what they are looking for, so in phrasing from the client " I am into/looking for xyz..." Preferred over from the client "what are into? Are you xyz?..." I am supposed to show you a good time so it's better that I know more from what you are looking for instead of just asking what I like. Additionally, in theme of the time waster subject of this thread some inquiring clients ask negatively affirming questions or use the omission for an interest by just forgetting to mention it as a disqualification. For example, some ask if I pnp, not because they are looking for it but because if you say yes it's a deal breaker...or asking if I bottom...not because they are looking for that but because they don't want someone who is willing to bottom and really want a top...or asking what I'm into and I'll list top, bottom, kissing, oral...a d they reply back "oh I was looking for rimming too, sorry I'm gonna pass" even tho I am into rimming as long as everything is clean.

 

Keep asking questions, but don't be afraid to describe yourself out there too!

[xyz48B]

@MrMattBig – Providers who act like they’re too good to engage in conversation are likely not going to be a good fit for my time anyhow.

[+ DERRIK]

 

 

If he screens his clients for age and ethnicity it doesn’t matter if it offends you or not; if his business is sustained from those not offended by it then that is wonderful for him;

 

 

 

Guys I typically give me basics (age, weight, preferences). On occasion I have been ghosted after I've done so. In reality, I feel the provider has done me a favor. If he doesn't want to book clients in my demographic - then meeting up in person with be an unpleasant experience .

 

I feel he has ultimately saved me time and money from what would have been an unpleasant experience.

 

I really don't have time to invest in fretting about how wrong he was to cut me off

Edited June 9, 2020 by DERRIK

[+ DynamicUno]

In terms of asking questions, I like when a client tells me what they are looking for, so in phrasing from the client " I am into/looking for xyz..." Preferred over from the client "what are into? Are you xyz?..." I am supposed to show you a good time so it's better that I know more from what you are looking for instead of just asking what I like. Additionally, in theme of the time waster subject of this thread some inquiring clients ask negatively affirming questions or use the omission for an interest by just forgetting to mention it as a disqualification. For example, some ask if I pnp, not because they are looking for it but because if you say yes it's a deal breaker...or asking if I bottom...not because they are looking for that but because they don't want someone who is willing to bottom and really want a top...or asking what I'm into and I'll list top, bottom, kissing, oral...a d they reply back "oh I was looking for rimming too, sorry I'm gonna pass" even tho I am into rimming as long as everything is clean.

 

Keep asking questions, but don't be afraid to describe yourself out there too!

 

This is insightful. I never use the tactic of using negatively affirming questions to disqualify a guy I haven't met before, it just seems a bit too passive aggressive to me. I'd rather ask a guy if he likes to top because I want to know if he's going to enjoy doing it, instead of just going through the motions. Or if discussing kinkier options, it seems more productive to be direct instead of expecting the other guy to read my mind. Again, it's more about determining if there is mutual interest in that direction or not. But I would ask first about availability and rates, that would seem to go a long way for assuring that I'm serious about setting something up and not just asking questions for fapping material.

[MikeBiDude]

Guys I typically give me basics (age, weight, preferences). On occasion I have been ghosted after I've done so. In reality, I feel the provider has done me a favor. If he doesn't want to book clients in my demographic - then meeting up in person with be an unpleasant experience .

 

I feel he has ultimately saved me time and money from what would have been an unpleasant experience.

 

I really don't have time to invest in fretting about how wrong he was to cut me off

I agree...better to know than having a strained/uncomfortable visit!

[down_to_business]

...Believe it or not clients also lie/embellish when they disclose their age and body type even if the escort never ask them. Someone describing himself as a cub might show up 50 lbs heavier at his door.

 

Which is apparently no more accurate as to what some escorts provide to clients

[marylander1940]

Which is apparently no more accurate as to what some escorts provide to clients

 

They age in a different way.

[orville]

They age in a different way.

Yeah, for some escorts the Rentmen website acts like a fountain of youth. I don't care much as long as they are good-looking and hung ?

Edited June 10, 2020 by orville