When will you begin taking clients again?

[Guest Cayden]

Im curious of what the sentiment is out there. I stopped taking massage clients in mid-March when the lockdowns began. Im wondering when you would feel comfortable taking clients, assuming you’ve stopped taking them? I know that massage may be a different than Escort work. My personal feeling has been to wait until the anti-body tests became available en masse and then take clients again with precautions but i also may remain on hiatus indefinitely. I’m curious to other’s thoughts on this.

[AJ Doyle]

Im curious of what the sentiment is out there. I stopped taking massage clients in mid-March when the lockdowns began. Im wondering when you would feel comfortable taking clients, assuming you’ve stopped taking them? I know that massage may be a different than Escort work. My personal feeling has been to wait until the anti-body tests became available en masse and them tale clients again with precautions but i also may remain on hiatus indefinitely. I’m curious to other’s thoughts on this.

I stopped taking massage and escort clients in February. I'm planning to resume May 15 when our state is suppose to open back up... I stopped mostly cause I didn't wanna be accused of not taking this pandemic seriously. But to be honest if our state extends it past the 15th (It's been two months come on guys) then I'm going to still resume taking clients....

[Shawn Monroe]

May 15 is what I’m thinking too, since things are opening back up in atlanta.

[borgerback]

I think this is correct because the numbers are showing a serious situation, but no call for the extreme level of fear. Proper precautions are still warranted. Maybe the self-test kits (when available) are something escorts should have handy (with what money, given what operations have been like the last seven weeks I don't know). But that and a surface thermometer would put a lot of fear to rest on a case-by-case basis.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Im curious of what the sentiment is out there. I’m curious to other’s thoughts on this.

 

My thoughts: why stop now, when there’s been things that hit far closer to home than this. People were still coming into the biz, despite the hundreds of thousands of cases of STD, Hepatitis (and there’s been increases in that, according to various cities STD clinics, before COVID 19), and HIV. Same as I’ve been saying already on the forum, but I don’t have too much time to elaborate on at the moment.

 

I didn’t stop seeing clients, nor was there any 2nd guessing if I would. The question I’m wondering: when are the rest of the clients out there going to start hiring again lol.

 

Couple weeks ago, one of my regular clients came by. I was outside most of the day, which in the Midwest around this time of year, can trigger allergies, which triggers my asthma.

 

We had to end the session early because I was short on breath (and not from the action lol). It was exasperated by the fact that I forgotten my asthma medication at home. Later on he was telling me that he hope it wasn’t COVID 19. I told him I’m pretty sure it isn’t, I’ve been dealing with this on and off for years. Sure enough, once I got my inhaler back...I was immediately able to breathe normally. We met again a week later, but then after the session I was gasping out of his place because he had incense burning, and that is a definite asthma trigger.

 

Point is, there’s always stuff out there. Why lie to myself by stopping something temporarily, and then going back once things are “safe”. Obviously you don’t want to take unnecessary risks if you don’t have to, but I’m not going to give myself a false sense of safety.

 

Think of it this way: If I were to ask this same question to a die-hard church lady, or to a random, Uber conservative doctor, what would their answer be? Would they say, “it’ll be safer to wait until COVID 19 is over before going back to having multiple sex partners?” ?

[Ryan Roman]

My thoughts: why stop now, when there’s been things that hit far closer to home than this. People were still coming into the biz, despite the hundreds of thousands of cases of STD, Hepatitis (and there’s been increases in that, according to various cities STD clinics, before COVID 19), and HIV. Same as I’ve been saying already on the forum, but I don’t have too much time to elaborate on at the moment.

 

I didn’t stop seeing clients, nor was there any 2nd guessing if I would. The question I’m wondering: when are the rest of the clients out there going to start hiring again lol.

 

Couple weeks ago, one of my regular clients came by. I was outside most of the day, which in the Midwest around this time of year, can trigger allergies, which triggers my asthma.

 

We had to end the session early because I was short on breath (and not from the action lol). It was exasperated by the fact that I forgotten my asthma medication at home. Later on he was telling me that he hope it wasn’t COVID 19. I told him I’m pretty sure it isn’t, I’ve been dealing with this on and off for years. Sure enough, once I got my inhaler back...I was immediately able to breathe normally. We met again a week later, but then after the session I was gasping out of his place because he had incense burning, and that is a definite asthma trigger.

 

Point is, there’s always stuff out there. Why lie to myself by stopping something temporarily, and then going back once things are “safe”. Obviously you don’t want to take unnecessary risks if you don’t have to, but I’m not going to give myself a false sense of safety.

 

Think of it this way: If I were to ask this same question to a die-hard church lady, or to a random, Uber conservative doctor, what would their answer be? Would they say, “it’ll be safer to wait until COVID 19 is over before going back to having multiple sex partners?” ?

 

While I've only seen a few clients since the start of COVID19, I made the decision as rationally as possible based on all of the available information being provided by public health authorities. I've not made myself available for appointments, but have had a few clients contact me, and saw them. It's not the same as pre-COVID19, but that's ok. My "other" life has me working 11 hour days.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

While I've only seen a few clients since the start of COVID19, I made the decision as rationally as possible based on all of the available information being provided by public health authorities. I've not made myself available for appointments, but have had a few clients contact me, and saw them. It's not the same as pre-COVID19, but that's ok. My "other" life has me working 11 hour days.

 

Well that’s understandable.

 

But I’m seeing even if someone does decide to go ahead and work, I’ve already seen I may have to revert back to the previous way of doing things with some people...because some people are using it as a way to back out of appointments of such.

 

One guy hits me up yesterday for a session, then sends me this bull jive:

 

I am going to have to pass this time as it's too must of a risk if one of your clients had it in the last 2 weeks I could get from you and bring it home to him

 

So my response was:

 

Please don't waste my time with scare antics and guilt trips pertaining to my biz. You reached out to me, asking for a visit. If you are scared, don't contact.

 

Last thing I need is for someone to be coming around talking about stuff that’s on tv round the clock anyway.

 

I’m already seeing some cities are completely devoid of all escort/massage providers. In a way it could be an opportunity, but if people are dropping out because there’s nothing happening...that could be a different animal.

 

And people need to also not assume someone hasn’t already crossed paths with this. As new information comes out, they’re saying some people reacted to the virus with symptoms different from the usual. There’s also a good consensus that this was around before it hit headlines, and when I had my weird body going into overdrive to fight the virus symptoms, everything was still open full blast. The media said the first Coronavirus case hit Florida sometime in March. I’m sure it was floating around far prior to that.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ IronMaus]

I'm not comfortable seeing clients until I know whether I have the antibodies, or if the client knows they have. Besides, the majority of my regular clients won't be hiring anytime soon.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I'm not comfortable seeing clients until I know whether I have the antibodies, or if the client knows they have. Besides, the majority of my regular clients won't be hiring anytime soon.

 

Yeah that is a good point. I’m sure there’s some way to access those.

 

I’m sort of having 2nd thoughts myself. This is all happening during a time where I am pressed to relocate, and now it’s being thwarted. Even though some of the demand is still out there, it’s going to be harder to build a momentum.

 

I think the scariest thing isn’t the virus, but how many potential clients may be unrecognized. That of course then leads some of us to take any appointment we can, which can lead to issues.

[+ IronMaus]

I think the scariest thing isn’t the virus, but how many potential clients may be unrecognized. That of course then leads some of us to take any appointment we can, which can lead to issues.

Of the people I know who are still working in the Bay, I hear that rates are being challenged. Those that are willing to work (many of which have no other options and have difficulty getting unemployment) will take what they can get, new provides on the block will work for chump change, and clients are taking advantage whether or not they have the money.

Anecdotally, I've watched how the street trade on my street in Oakland has been affected the last two months. As soon as people needed money or weren't getting it, a whole new class of hoes showed up. Never thought I'd see young, white, or trans hoe on my block. I'm all for diversity, but the girls I know that walked this block the longest go from tricking with a bed to homeless and fiending in a month...

 

It's mostly a matter of economics. I haven't lived through many recessions as a sex worker, but I imagine hookers get fucked by them every time. Pardon my french ;-)

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Of the people I know who are still working in the Bay, I hear that rates are being challenged. Those that are willing to work (many of which have no other options and have difficulty getting unemployment) will take what they can get, new provides on the block will work for chump change, and clients are taking advantage whether or not they have the money.

Anecdotally, I've watched how the street trade on my street in Oakland has been affected the last two months. As soon as people needed money or weren't getting it, a whole new class of hoes showed up. Never thought I'd see young, white, or trans hoe on my block. I'm all for diversity, but the girls I know that walked this block the longest go from tricking with a bed to homeless and fiending in a month...

 

It's mostly a matter of economics. I haven't lived through many recessions as a sex worker, but I imagine hookers get fucked by them every time. Pardon my french ;-)

 

Interesting assessment. I don’t know a whole lot about street trade because that’s mostly vanished outside of the biggest cities. Not to mention I’d just be hard pressed to do it.

 

Re: recessions, I started around the time of the 2008 recession. I got let go from a intern banking job, but I wouldn’t be surprised if karma bit them in the ass because, it wasn’t long before the recession came around. And that was in Florida where it hit one of the hardest.

 

However, I had later moved to “recession-proof” Texas, and it was survivable. However, that one was obviously a lot different. This hits in more ways than 1. There was also the brief oil recession couple years or so ago, and some layoffs ensued.

 

I still feel this is like what happens after a major Hurricane strikes. It obviously lasts and affects for a couple months or may have long lasting effects. But once things recover, it should be on the right track.

 

I’m not an economist so I’m just speaking in general. However, there’s a looming feel that all he money being dolled out and borrowed, could create some manifestations down the line. It’s just hard to tell. I know down the line, there will be a lot of “we should of did this, instead of that...”

[marylander1940]

Of the people I know who are still working in the Bay, I hear that rates are being challenged. Those that are willing to work (many of which have no other options and have difficulty getting unemployment) will take what they can get, new provides on the block will work for chump change, and clients are taking advantage whether or not they have the money.

Anecdotally, I've watched how the street trade on my street in Oakland has been affected the last two months. As soon as people needed money or weren't getting it, a whole new class of hoes showed up. Never thought I'd see young, white, or trans hoe on my block. I'm all for diversity, but the girls I know that walked this block the longest go from tricking with a bed to homeless and fiending in a month...

 

It's mostly a matter of economics. I haven't lived through many recessions as a sex worker, but I imagine hookers get fucked by them every time. Pardon my french ;-)

 

I'm a friend of 2 guys who clearly stay in the ads they're NOT escorting at the moment.. they get 3 or 4 guys texting them per week "how much" or just "hi", those guys never even bother reading the ads or don't even know what covid safe mode is on RM. I guess bottom feeders are home, horny and they smell the chance to get a better deal but I doubt most of them would dare to hire.

[Rod Hagen]

My understanding is that none, or very few, of the readily available antibody tests, such as Quest Labs on Robertson, are FDA approved. I'm waiting for the FDA approved tests. Cedars Sinai lab told me this morning that they do not yet have the antibody test.

 

After paying for that test, when it becomes available, If antibodies are not detected, I'm almost certainly not going to see clients at least until there is an effective home-treatment, not something like Remdesivr that's only done under medical supervision, and which doctor friends tell me Cedars Sinai, CEDARS SINAI!, doesn't have readily available right now.

 

If the FDA-approved test shows the presence of antibodies, I'll likely get the test one more time. If it shows the same result...I'm not sure. We don't know how protective, for how long, antibodies are, even if the news is so far somewhat good on that front.

 

I don't want to die. I don't want my friends to die. I don't want the wives and children and grandchildren of my friends to die.

 

These are very uncertain times, and I'm telling friends and potential new friends I simply can't provide certainty right now. I wish I could.

Edited May 20, 2020 by Rod Hagen