Men with older brothers more likely to be gay

[+ Trebor]

Anyone see this new story posted on the NBC website? Certainly true in my case;) What do you think???

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/men-older-brothers-are-more-likely-be-gay-study-suggests-n1165201

[mike carey]

Anyone see this new story posted on the NBC website? Certainly true in my case;) What do you think???

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/men-older-brothers-are-more-likely-be-gay-study-suggests-n1165201

Could be true, but in my family I'm the older brother, and my brother was straight.

[+ sync]

Anyone see this new story posted on the NBC website? Certainly true in my case;) What do you think???

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/men-older-brothers-are-more-likely-be-gay-study-suggests-n1165201

Merits consideration in my case, as well.

[+ bigjoey]

Could be true, but in my family I'm the older brother, and my brother was straight.

 

Same here.

[+ Trebor]

To be honest about it, it was my older brother who introduced me to sex with other guys when we were young teens. I would have gladly continued to enjoy playing around with him but he decided girls were better for fucking. He never fucked me but we would engage in oral and he would jump on my thighs or ass until he came.

[Jaguar1]

I'm the older brother and gay. My younger brother is straight.

[+ Reisr30]

I'm the older brother and gay. My younger brother is straight.

Same for me.

[rvwnsd]

My brother is five years younger than me and straight. I'm gay.

 

Then again, everyone thinks I'm the younger one, so...

[+ poolboy48220]

My younger sister came out about 10 years after I did.

[ericwinters]

Im the oldest and a Queen. My sister is lesbian.

[RomanticRick]

Would older cousins count? Was as close as brothers with the cousin (both of us twelve) who introduced masturbation and eventually mutual.

Then moved on to other cousins most of whom (including the one as close as a brother) either turned straight or started / were already living a straight life -- marrying a women, begetting a child, etc.

[+ sf westcoaster]

I am the older and both of us are gay

[liubit]

I join the club of being the gay older brother with a straight-as-an-arrow younger brother.

[+ Charlie]

Among my gay male friends who have brothers, it is generally the older brother who is gay. In my spouse's family of four brothers, the two older brothers are gay, the two younger brothers are straight.

[jonnychgo]

I'm the younger though by 22 years and gay. He was straight and fathered 10 children. Pressure for grandchildren was thankfully off me!!!

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I am the oldest with two younger sisters.

[RM]

I am the older and both of us are gay

Me too. But then we're fraternal twins.

[+ honcho]

I've mentioned that my boyfriend's identical twin is straight. I don't know which of them popped out first though ...

[Guest]

Anyone see this new story posted on the NBC website? Certainly true in my case;) What do you think???

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/men-older-brothers-are-more-likely-be-gay-study-suggests-n1165201

I checked the date on this post. Actually, this is a scientific fact that's been known for years. Has been brought up on these forums previously. Even the mechanism is known. Of course, there are gay oldest brothers, but they're just more rare. This article's from 2017:

https://www.pnas.org/content/115/2/234

Edited March 23, 2020 by Unicorn

[Guest]

This article's from the 20th Century (when just the fact of the fraternal order was known, not the mechanism):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8540587

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2156010-we-may-know-why-younger-brothers-are-more-likely-to-be-gay/#

[Guest]

This article's from 2012:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254861994_How_and_Why_Do_Older_Brothers_Influence_Sexual_Orientation_in_Men

[Sensualsmooth]

The pressing question on all our minds is whether you had sexy with your brother?

[sydneyboy]

I don’t agree with the premise in that article. I would argue that Freud, as unfashionable as he is these days said it all about the causes of homosexuality. I accept that in the case of 2 brothers a younger brother is likely to be gay because of being the “baby” of the family. I’m an only child another classic situation. This reasoning is often dismissed as psycho babble but so be it. I hope this does not provoke an unseemly debate as some people feel strongly about the issue of causation and nature v nurture and I would agree it is a rather academic argument. We have come a very long way in my lifetime and long may it continue.

Edited October 18, 2020 by sydneyboy

[Guest]

The pressing question on all our minds is whether you had sexy with your brother?

[Guest]

I don’t agree with the premise in that article. I would argue that Freud, as unfashionable as he is these days said it all about the causes of homosexuality. I accept that in the case of 2 brothers a younger brother is likely to be gay because of being the “baby” of the family....

 

So you disagree with the evidence presented in the link on post #19: "Bogaert et al. (3) present direct biochemical evidence indicating that the increased incidence of homosexuality in males with older brothers results from a progressive immunization of the mother against a male-specific cell-adhesion protein that plays a key role in cell–cell interactions, specifically in the process of synapse formation, during development called neuroligin 4 Y-linked, or NLGN4Y. This study provides the first data-based explanation for the FBO effect and adds a significant chapter to growing evidence indicating that sexual orientation is heavily influenced by prenatal biological mechanisms rather than by unidentified factors in socialization."

On what basis (in other words, what evidence) do you disagree with the scientific study? (By the way, there are other studies showing similar data) Or do you just believe whatever feels right to you, and ignore scientific inquiry into a subject?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JMJoqDEBsW0/Tksf8WIazeI/AAAAAAAAAgk/Gbhp0wSZ1D8/s1600/web-UCScalendar-2012-ScientificTruthPauls2011.jpg