Keep Records About Clients?

[crushme99]

How many providers keep notes or records on their clients? I would assume some records about who is a good client, poor client, idiosyncrasies, notes pro and con would be helpful from a business standpoint. I wouldn’t expect a full dossier on all of us, but something like that could be a good business tool.

[corndog]

I don't think you're going to get a useful answer to this question.

 

Clients, especially those who value "discretion," would like to believe that providers don't keep any records, and there is no "little black book," digital or otherwise.

 

Some providers probably keep records with varying levels of detail about their clients. It's totally understandable that they would like to remember which clients to avoid, and it would be a good business practice to keep track of clients' likes and dislikes, and even personal details so they can easily make repeat clients feel valued.

 

Keeping these records is a good business practice. Disclosing that you do is not.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This is the question that no escort really wants to answer in public.

 

Bottom line, if you do, make sure it's password-protected, encrypted and cryptic.

[crushme99]

I can certainly appreciate the need for discretion. I guess I was thinking that from the business perspective, most folks keep a "Rolodex" of good contacts, etc. We clients often overlook that this is a business and a provider could well make good use of many useful business techniques.

Take care, everyone.

[Trick]

Doctors keep records of their patients but they are bound by doctor-patient confidentiality. Won’t the same principle apply to providers who want to keep a record of their clients?

[instudiocity]

I can certainly appreciate the need for discretion. I guess I was thinking that from the business perspective, most folks keep a "Rolodex" of good contacts, etc. We clients often overlook that this is a business and a provider could well make good use of many useful business techniques.

Take care, everyone.

Rolodex- ha... I'm sure all clients are saved either as "NEVER AGAIN" or some such, or by name if the escort wants to see him again.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

Doctors keep records of their patients but they are bound by doctor-patient confidentiality. Won’t the same principle apply to providers who want to keep a record of their clients?

 

Doctors are legally required to maintain the doctor-patient confidentiality. Our providers are not legally bound by the same level of confidentiality. I would suspect that the providers that have sustained success in the business have maintained a similar level of confidentiality.

[instudiocity]

Doctors keep records of their patients but they are bound by doctor-patient confidentiality. Won’t the same principle apply to providers who want to keep a record of their clients?

I don't think the escort-client veil is as impenetrable as Doctor/Patient, or Counselor/Patient, or Attorney/Client privileges which recognized in law and precedent...

[Trick]

What I was trying to say is that keeping a record of clients doesn’t mean the provider cannot keep such information confidential.

 

But I realized that if a provider gets in trouble with the law, the records he kept may become public.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Doctors are legally required to maintain the doctor-patient confidentiality. Our providers are not legally bound by the same level of confidentiality. I would suspect that the providers that have sustained success in the business have maintained a similar level of confidentiality.

 

You. Sir. Are. Correct.

 

If it's written down, in a phone, on an easily accessible computer, etc, it's at risk of being published online.

 

While it's sorta old-school to think that a vice cop is going to 'go easy on you' if you give him client info, it's possible it can still happen, especially around election time and in a conservative area.

[Ajac]

Though it was not an escort experience but a four handed erotic massage I remember the session actually started with sitting for a brief interview about my likes and any physical concerns which went into a small notebook. The next session it was obvious to me that my answers from the notebook were being addressed. They were not around very long. They were one of those rare amazing craigslist finds.

[Kris Parkes]

I do not keep notes, but when I receive calls and/or text messages from gamers or time wasters, I save them in my phone as WOT#1 WOT#2 WOT#3, etc… WOT = Waste Of Time. This way when they call or text me, I ignore or delete it.

[Guest Calix_K]

@Kris Parkes I used to do that, now it's a simple "block number" function to eliminate any unnecessary contacts in my phone.

 

As far as keeping notes, I have a great memory so I don't keep physical notes per se. I credit that to my time with Kim's Game, so I rarely miss a detail!

[lonely_john]

Not really a record but I do save all of my texts. This business unfortunately has a lot of flakes, fakes and time wasters and they will try the same spheal months later thinking you’ve forgotten.

 

These are people I struggle to understand. Why would they invest time in texting an escort to then never show up? Especially if the provider will likely block them. What do they do next? Jump onto the next escort? To then get blocked again? And so on? And the worst is they make most providers become paranoid and cold when dealing for the first time with a client. My first thought is mental health issues. If I like an escort and really want to see him, I want him to take me seriously.

Edited March 10, 2020 by lonely_john

[Beancounter]

Though it was not an escort experience but a four handed erotic massage I remember the session actually started with sitting for a brief interview about my likes and any physical concerns which went into a small notebook. The next session it was obvious to me that my answers from the notebook were being addressed. They were not around very long. They were one of those rare amazing craigslist finds.

Licensed massage therapists are required to go through a cursory list with a client to ascertain if there are any contraindications to note, to see if a client has had any surgeries the therapist should be aware of and to see what the clientks preferences are. Perhaps they want to be draped or perhaps they don’t like their feet worked on.

 

If the massage therapist fails to conduct this preliminary interview he/she technically leaves him/herself open to legal action. But, of course, 99.9% of the massage clients on this Forum are only interested in anonymity and a happy ending. I seriously doubt many members use Massage Envy or any other above board massage provider on a regular basis

 

Sounds like the guys you used were actually LMTs, a rarity on Craigslist or any other of the massage websites geared toward gay men.

[Kris Parkes]

@ Lonely John - The people you reference have no intention of meeting. They are horny and bored, a bit pathetic, but not serious about meeting.

[+ StLouisOct]

I don't think the escort-client veil is as impenetrable as Doctor/Patient, or Counselor/Patient, or Attorney/Client privileges which recognized in law and precedent...

The answer is quite simple. There is no escort/client privilege of any kind. It’s a good business practice, but escorts have no more of a legally privileged relationship than a plumber has with his customer.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

The answer is quite simple. There is no escort/client privilege of any kind. It’s a good business practice, but escorts have no more of a legally privileged relationship than a plumber has with his customer.

 

As I've always said, it's tough asking for people to act in a regulated way in a completely unregulated industry.

[MrMattBig]

These are people I struggle to understand. Why would they invest time in texting an escort to then never show up? Especially if the provider will likely block them. What do they do next? Jump onto the next escort? To then get blocked again? And so on? And the worst is they make most providers become paranoid and cold when dealing for the first time with a client. My first thought is mental health issues. If I like an escort and really want to see him, I want him to take me seriously.

It is said 1/25 people are sociopaths.

I think it's more like 1/18.

[+ FrankR]

It is said 1/25 people are sociopaths.

I think it's more like 1/18.

Excuse me? That’s “Mr Sociopath” to you, handsome!

[instudiocity]

Doctors are legally required to maintain the doctor-patient confidentiality. Our providers are not legally bound by the same level of confidentiality. I would suspect that the providers that have sustained success in the business have maintained a similar level of confidentiality.

Legally required? Obamacare so regulated medical records that Doctor's non-digital files were basically obsolete - everything must be online. I now pick my doctor's by how much face time I get before, during and after their documentation of the visit. Fifteen minutes appointments are invariably 30 minutes because they have to document everything in the computer right that moment.

 

I fired one doctor who came in with his laptop in his hands, head buried in the screen for the entire visit. He usually shook my hand at the start, but never at the end of the appointment.

[instudiocity]

It is said 1/25 people are sociopaths.

I think it's more like 1/18.

REALLY? I thought it might be the typical 80/20 rule, 80 % will contact you but only 20% hire you.

[MrMattBig]

REALLY? I thought it might be the typical 80/20 rule, 80 % will contact you but only 20% hire you.

If I ever hit a 20% conversion rate from initial message to setting or attempting to set an appointment (sometimes I just don't have the available time) I might hold a raffle for a free weekend date lol.

I would say I hover around 5-10%

Edited March 14, 2020 by MrMattBig

[mike carey]

If I ever hit a 20% conversion rate from initial message to setting or attempting to set an appointment (sometimes I just don't have the available time) I might hold a raffle for a free weekend date lol.

I would say I hover around 10%

Guilty, chatted with you in PS last year, didn't hire.

[MrMattBig]

Guilty, chatted with you in PS last year, didn't hire.

Lol I have filtered out that exchange in my analysis.?