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I have considered posting this for some time now, and this seems a good enough time as any. I will appreciate your contribution on this subject. I would especially like to hear from those clients who consider or label themselves "shy" and "inexperienced"...(Surely you can not all be connoisseurs!). :-)

 

When faced with the encounter of a session with your "dream" escort, and your nerves are getting the better of you, how would you like your escort to handle it? I ask this because no good escort will just ignore it, and would do their best to put you (and him) at ease.

 

As you know, when you do something often enough, especially something you enjoy, you get "good" at it. Hence, I confidently speak from experience, and the following three options have always worked whenever I applied them as and when required. I am more than certain that most successful escorts do so too. All three options work, depending on the circumstance. My question therefore is this:

 

Which is the PREFERRED approach from the stance of the client? Which would you rather see more of? Also if you have another approach/solution not covered here, feel free to mention it.

 

OPTION 1

The escort overlooks said awkwardness and without the hint of complaint, "pretends" to have a great time. Simplistic as it sounds, when done right, the client may never be any the wiser. If executed by a true professional, with an ample dash of the right moans and groans, the client, but not the escort will indeed have a good time. If he is really good, he may achieve an erection, and in some rare cases, maintain it. An ejaculation is not out of the question either. Such my friend is the power of a “sexpert!” Not at all a bad experience, but not the kind that will move the earth in Paris, yet the mission is achieved. Now, some clients may say: What’s wrong with that Quinte? Surely it gets no better than that does it? I got "off" didn't I? ...Well please forgive me if I come across as a "know-it-all", but guess what? :-) It could be better, read on:

 

OPTION 2

Mission achieved yes, but most escorts of a high caliber will sincerely like to have a "great time" too, and may well do a little more than "pretend". In this scenario, the escort will rise to the occasion (pardon the pun), and attempt to "save" the situation each time it sours or the client "goofs" (not my words). A nervous client could be quite unfairly mean to himself! For instance he may beat/jack mercilessly at his member wondering where that hard on disappeared to (this is possible even after little blue diamonds). If this client was lucky enough to have hired a really good escort, some thing like this may transpire: Escort will take the clients attention away from the loin region and stimulate the client in other ways. Often deliberately slowly and with an emphasis on ensuring the client feels "no pressure". Note that the escort tactfully performs all these maneuvers and dynamics in his head; All the while, keeping a cool and unchanged exterior until the client is able to reach that "higher" plain. More times than not, this works too. Mission again achieved.

 

...Notes...

Now, I purposely overlooked one crucial factor to Option 2. It will only work when the client despite his nervousness or awkwardness admits this to himself, and follows the lead of the escort. Or allows himself to be "relaxed and go with the flow". What if this fails? What if A and B do not work? What if the client himself does not allow the escort to "seduce" him and genuinely tried to "show" he can keep up, but ends up even more frustrated at his own attempts. If the client unfortunately hired just any escort, it is likely that through no real fault of both parties, the situation will degenerate into a write off, a disaster or at worst, a less then stellar review for the escort or none at all for his impatience. The client on the other hand is then in my opinion, unfairly left to feel "pissed off" and is likely going to approach his next escort with the bitter taste of the old still in his mouth. It doesn't have to be this way...

 

OPTION 3

 

You may consider this "The openly honest and kind approach". What a top-notch escort will do... Some call it teaching, F**k Lessons, but I beg to differ. It is merely pointing out something that comes naturally to a lot of men gay or Straight but often taken for granted that our partners were also "born" equipped with carnal knowledge and an ability to suck bodily parts. Confidence building if you like. Mr. Above Average Escort will more than likely dismiss the time factor to a more than reasonable degree and generously show all patience. Clients should remember we have "heard it all" so do not be afraid to voice your concerns. Option 3 is often the most effective, hard to execute, used as a last resort, and in my practice, only if solicited do I give advise; It is a tactic the escort may employ if he sees the situation getting no better, or the client keeps giving himself a hard time, as to if "its working or not" (as I said earlier, nervous or inexperienced clients could often be their own worst enemies), but if they have hired a pro, it is likely that They (the client) will be told what the problem is. Without rudeness and with out making them feel "inadequate". Sometimes it is ok to stop, cuddle or take a break. Chatting will also help. One very eager virgin, was put out of his misery when his escort explained the simple reason why "it" kept slipping out. (I can tell the rest of that story without breaking any confidentiality and said client is now one happy bunny! I shall stop there. You catch the drift).

 

So, Gentlemen especially those who my post is seeking to reach, help us (escorts) serve you better. Every excellent escort has some variation of the 3 above. Which approach works best and why? If you were not aware of these, now that you are will it enrich your future escort/client experience?

 

Escorts, before you lynch me for passing on "trade secrets" and classified data :-) think what the responses if used right may mean to your business, and we may well hear from that little group/market so often overlooked and quickly dismissed as "flakes” The Self proclaimed "Shy" and "inexperienced" Client.

 

Respectfully yours,

Quinte DuSoleil

 

http://www.rentboy.com/quinte

http://communities.msn.com/qdus

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I have considered posting this for some time now, and this seems a good enough time as any. I will appreciate your contribution on this subject. I would especially like to hear from those clients who consider or label themselves "shy" and "inexperienced"...(Surely you can not all be connoisseurs!). :-)

 

When faced with the encounter of a session with your "dream" escort, and your nerves are getting the better of you, how would you like your escort to handle it? I ask this because no good escort will just ignore it, and would do their best to put you (and him) at ease.

 

As you know, when you do something often enough, especially something you enjoy, you get "good" at it. Hence, I confidently speak from experience, and the following three options have always worked whenever I applied them as and when required. I am more than certain that most successful escorts do so too. All three options work, depending on the circumstance. My question therefore is this:

 

Which is the PREFERRED approach from the stance of the client? Which would you rather see more of? Also if you have another approach/solution not covered here, feel free to mention it.

 

OPTION 1

The escort overlooks said awkwardness and without the hint of complaint, "pretends" to have a great time. Simplistic as it sounds, when done right, the client may never be any the wiser. If executed by a true professional, with an ample dash of the right moans and groans, the client, but not the escort will indeed have a good time. If he is really good, he may achieve an erection, and in some rare cases, maintain it. An ejaculation is not out of the question either. Such my friend is the power of a “sexpert!” Not at all a bad experience, but not the kind that will move the earth in Paris, yet the mission is achieved. Now, some clients may say: What’s wrong with that Quinte? Surely it gets no better than that does it? I got "off" didn't I? ...Well please forgive me if I come across as a "know-it-all", but guess what? :-) It could be better, read on:

 

OPTION 2

Mission achieved yes, but most escorts of a high caliber will sincerely like to have a "great time" too, and may well do a little more than "pretend". In this scenario, the escort will rise to the occasion (pardon the pun), and attempt to "save" the situation each time it sours or the client "goofs" (not my words). A nervous client could be quite unfairly mean to himself! For instance he may beat/jack mercilessly at his member wondering where that hard on disappeared to (this is possible even after little blue diamonds). If this client was lucky enough to have hired a really good escort, some thing like this may transpire: Escort will take the clients attention away from the loin region and stimulate the client in other ways. Often deliberately slowly and with an emphasis on ensuring the client feels "no pressure". Note that the escort tactfully performs all these maneuvers and dynamics in his head; All the while, keeping a cool and unchanged exterior until the client is able to reach that "higher" plain. More times than not, this works too. Mission again achieved.

 

...Notes...

Now, I purposely overlooked one crucial factor to Option 2. It will only work when the client despite his nervousness or awkwardness admits this to himself, and follows the lead of the escort. Or allows himself to be "relaxed and go with the flow". What if this fails? What if A and B do not work? What if the client himself does not allow the escort to "seduce" him and genuinely tried to "show" he can keep up, but ends up even more frustrated at his own attempts. If the client unfortunately hired just any escort, it is likely that through no real fault of both parties, the situation will degenerate into a write off, a disaster or at worst, a less then stellar review for the escort or none at all for his impatience. The client on the other hand is then in my opinion, unfairly left to feel "pissed off" and is likely going to approach his next escort with the bitter taste of the old still in his mouth. It doesn't have to be this way...

 

OPTION 3

 

You may consider this "The openly honest and kind approach". What a top-notch escort will do... Some call it teaching, F**k Lessons, but I beg to differ. It is merely pointing out something that comes naturally to a lot of men gay or Straight but often taken for granted that our partners were also "born" equipped with carnal knowledge and an ability to suck bodily parts. Confidence building if you like. Mr. Above Average Escort will more than likely dismiss the time factor to a more than reasonable degree and generously show all patience. Clients should remember we have "heard it all" so do not be afraid to voice your concerns. Option 3 is often the most effective, hard to execute, used as a last resort, and in my practice, only if solicited do I give advise; It is a tactic the escort may employ if he sees the situation getting no better, or the client keeps giving himself a hard time, as to if "its working or not" (as I said earlier, nervous or inexperienced clients could often be their own worst enemies), but if they have hired a pro, it is likely that They (the client) will be told what the problem is. Without rudeness and with out making them feel "inadequate". Sometimes it is ok to stop, cuddle or take a break. Chatting will also help. One very eager virgin, was put out of his misery when his escort explained the simple reason why "it" kept slipping out. (I can tell the rest of that story without breaking any confidentiality and said client is now one happy bunny! I shall stop there. You catch the drift).

 

So, Gentlemen especially those who my post is seeking to reach, help us (escorts) serve you better. Every excellent escort has some variation of the 3 above. Which approach works best and why? If you were not aware of these, now that you are will it enrich your future escort/client experience?

 

Escorts, before you lynch me for passing on "trade secrets" and classified data :-) think what the responses if used right may mean to your business, and we may well hear from that little group/market so often overlooked and quickly dismissed as "flakes” The Self proclaimed "Shy" and "inexperienced" Client.

 

Respectfully yours,

Quinte DuSoleil

 

http://www.rentboy.com/quinte

http://communities.msn.com/qdus

[email protected]

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Option 1 - forget it, don't pretend with me - I believe I would notice the "faking" because I know when I'm doing it myself.

 

Option 2 - better, but a ways to go, imho.

 

Option 3 - I think this is the best choice - if it is a client's first escort experience, and the escort handles problems well, it will contribute to a positive experience for the client - especially with a sensitive escort.

 

I recently had my first experience with an escort, and worried greatly about performance, however, meeting him and talking while walking back to my hotel set me at ease, so when we got in the room, and he pushed me against the wall, we were off to the races, and no performance issues. The one thing I will say that really helped - my escort was a wonderful "responder" to my e-mails - he answered all of my concerns and questions, and I got to know him before we met. That would be the one tip that I think escorts can take away from all of this verbage - wherever possible, spend some time getting to know your potential client. I know every escort's time is limited, but moreso the client's time is limited, because we are, in many cases, madly juggling life. I e-mailed one escort about a potential meeting, discussing my concerns, he e-mailed me back and said to call him when I got to town. Another escort told me he was willing to exchange e-mails, as long as I sent him $200! Both escorts weren't pursued. I needed more than that, and from the escort I eventually met with, he gave of his time willingly and in spades.

 

I hope this helps.

 

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Option 1 - forget it, don't pretend with me - I believe I would notice the "faking" because I know when I'm doing it myself.

 

Option 2 - better, but a ways to go, imho.

 

Option 3 - I think this is the best choice - if it is a client's first escort experience, and the escort handles problems well, it will contribute to a positive experience for the client - especially with a sensitive escort.

 

I recently had my first experience with an escort, and worried greatly about performance, however, meeting him and talking while walking back to my hotel set me at ease, so when we got in the room, and he pushed me against the wall, we were off to the races, and no performance issues. The one thing I will say that really helped - my escort was a wonderful "responder" to my e-mails - he answered all of my concerns and questions, and I got to know him before we met. That would be the one tip that I think escorts can take away from all of this verbage - wherever possible, spend some time getting to know your potential client. I know every escort's time is limited, but moreso the client's time is limited, because we are, in many cases, madly juggling life. I e-mailed one escort about a potential meeting, discussing my concerns, he e-mailed me back and said to call him when I got to town. Another escort told me he was willing to exchange e-mails, as long as I sent him $200! Both escorts weren't pursued. I needed more than that, and from the escort I eventually met with, he gave of his time willingly and in spades.

 

I hope this helps.

 

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Obviously #3. One of the reasons I hire is to learn something; I have but I've got a long way to go.

As far as spending time beforehand, thats sounds great but is probably not particularly practical.Its difficult enough to set up a mutually satisfactory time in the first place-it would just compound it to have a premeeting. I do try and communicate my likes, dislikes and expectations up front, preferably by phone, so you get a flavor of the guy.

I just emailed 3 escorts about a meeting next weekend in SF. One replied within 24 hours, one took 4 days, and one hasn't been heard from yet. Guess who has the appointment.

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Obviously #3. One of the reasons I hire is to learn something; I have but I've got a long way to go.

As far as spending time beforehand, thats sounds great but is probably not particularly practical.Its difficult enough to set up a mutually satisfactory time in the first place-it would just compound it to have a premeeting. I do try and communicate my likes, dislikes and expectations up front, preferably by phone, so you get a flavor of the guy.

I just emailed 3 escorts about a meeting next weekend in SF. One replied within 24 hours, one took 4 days, and one hasn't been heard from yet. Guess who has the appointment.

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Thank you! Thank you!! Ted & Allan.

 

I am pleased we are getting some where on this one. 3 offers the best rewards to all concerned, but could so easily "go wrong". Thanks again for your in.

 

As to the escort who asked for $200 to answer emails, NO?!

 

Quinte DuSoleil

 

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Thank you! Thank you!! Ted & Allan.

 

I am pleased we are getting some where on this one. 3 offers the best rewards to all concerned, but could so easily "go wrong". Thanks again for your in.

 

As to the escort who asked for $200 to answer emails, NO?!

 

Quinte DuSoleil

 

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#3 definitely works. I was extremely nervous and anxious when I had my first time, with an escort no less, and he definitely noticed it right off the bat. He basically reassured me that we'd proceed slowly, and only in areas where I felt comfortable. A lot of talking, of reassuring helped calm down, and gently leading the way and giving feedback of what to do and not to do helped. I eventually felt at ease enough to chime in with what I wanted to happen, and he expertly obliged.

 

Establishing this on the onset with lots of communication I think helped set the tone for the rest of the evening.

 

Needless to say, it was the best night of my life! ;^)

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#3 definitely works. I was extremely nervous and anxious when I had my first time, with an escort no less, and he definitely noticed it right off the bat. He basically reassured me that we'd proceed slowly, and only in areas where I felt comfortable. A lot of talking, of reassuring helped calm down, and gently leading the way and giving feedback of what to do and not to do helped. I eventually felt at ease enough to chime in with what I wanted to happen, and he expertly obliged.

 

Establishing this on the onset with lots of communication I think helped set the tone for the rest of the evening.

 

Needless to say, it was the best night of my life! ;^)

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Quinte? In Option #2, what do you mean by "little blue diamonds"?

 

I studied the Options several times before agreeing that #3 is the one I prefer.

 

 

I recall my first experience. The guy was a real pro and employed Option 3 on me.

 

 

He was a drop-dead gorgeous, a slender 26yo blond located in DC. We had dinner together and really got to know each other. (The waiter who had been very friendly the night before, when I dined alone, actually was cold and hostile while serving the two of us. hehe)

 

 

After returning to the hotel room, things progressed slowly, but comfortably. Afterward, I recall lying naked on top of him, scrutinizing his beautiful face and commenting that there was not a single blemish to be found.

 

 

Needless to say, I fell madly in love.

 

 

Nothing since has ever equalled that first experience.

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Quinte? In Option #2, what do you mean by "little blue diamonds"?

 

I studied the Options several times before agreeing that #3 is the one I prefer.

 

 

I recall my first experience. The guy was a real pro and employed Option 3 on me.

 

 

He was a drop-dead gorgeous, a slender 26yo blond located in DC. We had dinner together and really got to know each other. (The waiter who had been very friendly the night before, when I dined alone, actually was cold and hostile while serving the two of us. hehe)

 

 

After returning to the hotel room, things progressed slowly, but comfortably. Afterward, I recall lying naked on top of him, scrutinizing his beautiful face and commenting that there was not a single blemish to be found.

 

 

Needless to say, I fell madly in love.

 

 

Nothing since has ever equalled that first experience.

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Hello there G! Your story was so sincere and it is obvious that thanks to one good escort, your first experience will mean a lot to you for a while to come.

 

Again, I am left in no doubt as to what clients would like more of. As to "blue diamonds" see teds reply below. :-)

 

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Hello there G! Your story was so sincere and it is obvious that thanks to one good escort, your first experience will mean a lot to you for a while to come.

 

Again, I am left in no doubt as to what clients would like more of. As to "blue diamonds" see teds reply below. :-)

 

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-00 AT 11:27AM (EST)[p]Gee, Q

 

All that fun and lessons (#3) too!! Do I have to keep practicing until I get it right?? -- I hope. Where do I sign up??

 

P.S. I'll have to borrow the Hope Diamond for the occasion.

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-13-00 AT 11:27AM (EST)[p]Gee, Q

 

All that fun and lessons (#3) too!! Do I have to keep practicing until I get it right?? -- I hope. Where do I sign up??

 

P.S. I'll have to borrow the Hope Diamond for the occasion.

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Qunite,

I have to say you sound like a TREMENDOUS individual !! As far as the thread goes...Option #3 is the best for me. When I fist started out I was a wreck. My first couple of experiences were not all that great but as they say...three times the charm. That particular escort took his time with me, was extremely gentle and it paid off in dividends. I now see him regularly and I can get going knowing he is on his way..<G>

It helped me with a number of others since. I always try to talk a couple of times before we get together. I met one the night before for a drink (I know that is not the norm, but it REALLY worked to ease the "shyness") and I have been fortunate that with a few of my encounters, we have gone out afterwards...for a variety of different reasons...all off the clock. Of course this happened after we had seen each other a number of times, but HEY, It just makes for good business to me...and for a sure thing for them the next time. Anyway, If I ever get down your way or you up to OHIO...lets you and I connect. I already feel comfortable with you ...just from reading your threads...thanks again Quinte!!

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Qunite,

I have to say you sound like a TREMENDOUS individual !! As far as the thread goes...Option #3 is the best for me. When I fist started out I was a wreck. My first couple of experiences were not all that great but as they say...three times the charm. That particular escort took his time with me, was extremely gentle and it paid off in dividends. I now see him regularly and I can get going knowing he is on his way..<G>

It helped me with a number of others since. I always try to talk a couple of times before we get together. I met one the night before for a drink (I know that is not the norm, but it REALLY worked to ease the "shyness") and I have been fortunate that with a few of my encounters, we have gone out afterwards...for a variety of different reasons...all off the clock. Of course this happened after we had seen each other a number of times, but HEY, It just makes for good business to me...and for a sure thing for them the next time. Anyway, If I ever get down your way or you up to OHIO...lets you and I connect. I already feel comfortable with you ...just from reading your threads...thanks again Quinte!!

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I'm for option 3.

 

I am usually rather nervous and definitely inexperienced, so this problem crops up quite often. Here are a few thoughts, for what they are worth to you:

 

For me, it is crucial that the escort come across as relaxed, friendly and positive, which may require SOME measure of diplomatic dissimulation. That's why getting off on the right foot is essential, and that begins with first contact, which is usually by email or telephone. If I have to try TOO hard to set up a meeting, then things turn sour from the outset. Unanswered queries are often the first bad sign, yet surprisingly common in this field. I think that many escorts unestimate how important such first impressions are.

 

The key to option 3 is HOW the escort offers advice. For me, the best way would be in the form of a suggestion, which blunts the force of advice that might otherwise sound like a criticism to a nervous and inexperienced client.

 

If the escort were more forthcoming about what HE likes, then the client (who may lack the escort's sensitivity to such things) would be in a better position to make it a mutually pleasurable experience. Knowing that the escort is enjoying himself (to the extent that this is possible under such circumstances) would actually help ME enjoy it more. Often, I just don't know what to do, and am too reticent to try something spontaneously. A hint or suggestion from the escort would often be most welcome.

 

A final word: It is apparent to me that escorting is a VERY tough job. While the pay seems good, judging by the high fees, it could never be called "easy money". I have often been disappointed by what appears to me to be a lack of professionalism by many escorts on the business side of things. (Making and keeping appointments, for example, where standards are abysmally low.) But most of the escorts I have met have impressed me greatly with their professionalism "behind closed doors". Since meeting with escorts, I have come to appreciate that they are practitioners of a bone fide art, and some of them are masters of it!

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