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Guest Tampa Yankee

Gentlemen,

 

I am really appalled at what has and continues to transpire on this board in the last 24 hours. I liken it to none other than mob hysteria -- just read the posts if you can detach yourself from the subject long enough.

 

I agree that Sean has breached a trust and I can't defend that breach and have said so. It has been only 24 hours since this issue exploded on the scene and the message center has seen little else but this topic in any of several threads (seems one thread couldn't contain it). I have seen good men of high intellect, usually very measured in their responses, make statements that are anything but measured. I have seen motives attributed not only to Sean, which can have no real factual basis, only opinion, but even more disturbingly to HooBoy calling his objectivity, honor, honesty and, by implication, intelligence into question. And these accusations are based on the thinnest of interpretations of events, where it is impossible, for me at least, to make such a leap -- and all of this apparently because HooBoy wouldn't be goaded into making an overt public declaration of Sean's guilt and then imposing a sentence of either branding him with the mark of Cain or further throwing him off the M4M site altogether -- all in less than 24 hours. Must justice be so swift, if not then are the authorities corrupt?? Hear the tone here -- are we seeing the return to citizen rule of the French Revolution.

 

It has only been 24 hours... and some time is needed to deal with this issue. One aspect that I thought deserved a little time was giving Sean some time to reflect on this situation to reconsider his views and his actions. Another aspect to consider is what sanctions, if any should be applied and how. This doesn't preclude a discussion of sanctions in any way, but resorting to unfortunate comments about people and their motives because sanctions are not applied within the first 24 hours seems to me beyond the pale.

 

In addition, although I have been on these board only since April or May, this incident seems to me without precedent (if not please clear it up for me and let's consult the precedents for this situation). It seems appropriate to reflect on what should be done and how and by whom because a precedent is very probably being set. As for the failure to act precipitously putting clients at risk, well I think it would be hard for any interested client to miss the controversy banging around the boards if anyone chose to look.

 

I, for one, am unsure just what should be done, who should do it, how, etc. It is not clear to me that HooBoy should be the one making the proclamations or not. He needs to maintain objectivity and arms length stance from escorts -- just look at the accusations arising from a harmless dinner. On the other hand if not HooBoy then who? and how? I haven't seen anyone bring this issue up for serious and thoughtful discussion. I guess Caesar, I mean HooBoy, is to make the decision based on the orientation of the thumbs of citizens assembled in this coliseum.

 

Boston Guy may very well be right when he said

 

<I think this incident has the potential to become a watershed in the life of

this Message Center ... >

 

I fear it already has taken a toll not yet visible. and I also fear this site may be much more fragile than I heretofore ever imagined.

 

Let's calm down and stop hurling accusations and calling motives into question, we as a community have a problem to consider and we have a number of sharp minds to help us find the way. All we need is a measured approach -- is that too much to ask.

 

Remember, we, not HooBoy, are the ultimate determiners of the success or failure of this board and it is as much ours as it is his. Will we be all that much happier or better off it we shoot ourselves in the foot by turning this place into a shambles and needlessly alienating important contributors that have to date made this forum what it is and has been.

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Thank you, Tampa Yankee, for your measured and level headed treatise on the events that have transpired here.

 

Alas, it seems that the civilized art of discussion and debate has been lost amidst the tsunami of emotion.

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While I most often disagree with TY, I too would hate to see the loss of this valuable forum all over a whore with a bad toupee.

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RE: Finally

 

Thank you Tampa! A thread on the subject that I can happily put my name to.

 

The outrage shown is justified and I sincerely regret that this has happened and that HooBoy again suffers repercussions. I said it before, I will say it again, HB shows no partiality at all. He is not "friends" with any escort I know of. He recognizes and encourages excellent service when he sees it, but none of us can truly call him a buddy. What has transpired here has gotten out of hand. Way out. Yes, Sean did not help the situation by persistently posting. One imperative factor seems to be over looked. The said tape(s) may well not exist. Matt mentioned this and no one seemed to notice. (Again Matt, I am sorry).

 

It is not common practice AT ALL for escorts to record their clients. Am sure other escorts will back me up on that. Think about it, I for one will not be making the job of the cops easier by keeping records or having "evidence" on my property. Hence, I delete, destroy and honestly do not have the "time" to police such a venture.

 

What happened was very unfortunate. Nothing more than a show of some very poor judgments on the part of an escort. A good one. Yes, a good one. I do not condone for one minute this ethic, but it will not remove the fact that Sean has proved himself to be a nice guy, and that remains my personal opinion of him. Personal, and not one I intend forcing on any man.

 

You have all made your points, I think it is wise to now let Sean reflect and redeem himself if he so wishes. Let Hooboy carry on providing a great service. Let the issue die a natural death; Most of all, lets go on enjoying the fundamental purpose of this site.

 

Pax,

Quinte DuSoleil

 

http://www.rentboy.com/quinte

http://communities.msn.com/qdus

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RE: Finally

 

Hey guys,

 

Who is afraid of offending who here?

 

It is simple.

 

Sean has said he tapes people without their consent.

 

The site is supposed to warn us prospective clients who the bad guys are as well as who the good guys are.

 

Everyone seems to be falling all over themselves to offend no one.

 

Why?

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RE: Good Question

 

N, that's a good question. Why do I prefer the Zagat Guide to Fodor's or Frommer's? Because if there's something wrong with a restaurant or hotel I'm more likely to find out by reading Zagat. The other two provide little more information than you can get by reading an ad from the establishment being reviewed -- useless. It's the same with escorts. Every escort advertises that he's the greatest. The value of this site to me is in the reviews that reveal which escorts are not so great.

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RE: Good Question

 

LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-00 AT 11:32PM (EST)[p]> Every escort advertises that

>he's the greatest. The

>value of this site to

>me is in the reviews

>that reveal which escorts are

>not so great.

 

So you look for the glass that's half empty rather than half full. Personally, I look for guys who have exemplary reviews especially those from reliable reviewers.

 

As a related example, my tastes always ran more along Roger Ebert's than Gene Siskels, so it's all subjective in the long run. That's why the review form asks for a bit about the reviewer.

 

I do think it is our responsibility to expose people who will steal our money, cause bodily harm or record us against our will. I have done that.

 

HooBoy

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RE: Good Question

 

>> Every escort advertises that

>>he's the greatest. The

>>value of this site to

>>me is in the reviews

>>that reveal which escorts are

>>not so great.

>

>So you look for the glass

>that's half empty rather than

>half full. Personally, I

>look for guys who have

>exemplary reviews especially those from

>reliable reviewers.

>

 

To each his own. When I choose a hotel, restaurant, etc. I already know the place's good points from its ads. They aren't going to tell me the other side. If I'm going to stay at a hotel, if they have a construction project going on so that the people on one side of the building can't hear themselves think during the day, I want to know about it before I book. And you don't?

 

Same with escorts. There are several escorts I would have booked based on their ads that I didn't because of things I read on this site, and I don't mean stealing or other extreme problems. In most cases it's because the reviewer mentions that the escort won't do things that I would want him to do. Somehow information like that doesn't always make it into escort ads.

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