how early to ask for rates/location?

[+ DrownedBoy]

When initially being texted by a client, how well do you react to first being asked about your rates? Or to ask how close an escort currently is?

 

Since RM removed their rates, I do need to ask the rate (as much as I'd like not having to).

 

Also, because of my position near Chicago, I do see the need to ask if clients are okay to travel a little (30 minute Uber ride).

 

However, several times, I've had escorts immediately and categorically decline me if I asked them one of these too early.

 

What are working providers looking for? Cutting to the chase? Or moving slowly?

Edited February 8, 2020 by DrownedBoy

[MrMattBig]

Perfect message....

"Hi, saw your ad on RM. I am into (xyz) and am available to meet up (state when you are looking/availability). I am in (general location) and able to (whether you can host travel or both).

If this sounds like a good fit for you, let me know your rates for (length of time you are looking for).

Love your ad and looking forward to hopefully meeting you!"

[MrMattBig]

Also, while keeping in mind everyone likes things to feel organic, fun, and spontaneous, as escorts we get pulled along with endless questions everyday, so if you don't have a certain level of conciseness, you might blend into those time wasters. Also, carrying on a conversation too long might lead to someone else swooping in and booking that time before you.

Whatever you do, don't reply "avail?" Or "rates?" Or "looking" or "into?"

These one word messages I am sure have had a many a escort throw their phone in disgust too many times to count.

 

Happy hunting!

[+ poolboy48220]

Thumbs-up to both of @MrMattBig 's posts. Walk the line between creepy & wasting time. I saw an article a few weeks ago about how to (and how not to) write work emails - brief, provide the necessary information, and make your subject line informative. Right on the heels of that, I got an email from a co-worker with a subject line of just "Information" The ones with just a subject line of "Help!" are equally useless.

Edited February 13, 2020 by poolboy48220

[+ DrownedBoy]

I'll try Mr. Matt's opener. I was afraid that a message too long, or with too much info, would creep people out. But I don't like wasting time texting either; would rather just make a deal.

[+ Eric Hassan]

Perfect message....

"Hi, saw your ad on RM. I am into (xyz) and am available to meet up (state when you are looking/availability). I am in (general location) and able to (whether you can host travel or both).

If this sounds like a good fit for you, let me know your rates for (length of time you are looking for).

Love your ad and looking forward to hopefully meeting you!"

 

i would cry tears of joy if i got a message like this - and i would answer all the questions without hesitation

 

being upfront is fine - it's when i get a message from someone i've never talked to before that says "what's your rate?" and nothing else - annoying partly because i link my website with all of this information on it already but mostly because you're a stranger and if you can't even bother to say "hello, my name is ___" than i wonder how much you actually care about what you're doing, and how nicely you'll treat me - i'm also quite likely to completely ignore the one word texts as @MrMattBig above mentioned ("avail?" "into")

 

i appreciate the efficiency of including your name, approximate location, in or out, days/times you're looking to meet, and any questions you have in your first text - it tells me that you think about what you're doing, you're interested in meeting me (not just lookinhg for a body) and that you care about YOUR experience - i mean, you're planning on spending a lot of money, don't you care about the experience even a little?

[Trick]

If only there was some SOP for client-provider communications, life would be a lot simpler. Unfortunately there’s none. I’ve sent messages similar to @MrMattBig’s but some providers reply with either a one-word answer or only an answer to one of the questions. I end up asking the other questions again. Another challenge is that some providers provide some rates and “intos” that are not accurate.

[MrMattBig]

some providers reply with either a one-word answer or only an answer to one of the questions. I end up asking the other questions again

Funny that you say if only there was some SOP for client-provider communications......your quote above is typically standard for human-human communications. I have found that true in non "working " hookups, selling/buying items, finding roommates, and other scenarios. I just expect this as the norm now whenever communicating digitally with anyone (text, email, even voice calls sometimes) and then pleasantly surprised and emotionally/intellectually turned on when someone communicates with well rounded responses.

[+ DrownedBoy]

If only there was some SOP for client-provider communications, life would be a lot simpler. Unfortunately there’s none. I’ve sent messages similar to @MrMattBig’s but some providers reply with either a one-word answer or only an answer to one of the questions. I end up asking the other questions again. Another challenge is that some providers provide some rates and “intos” that are not accurate.

 

Yes I've encountered those too. It's not worth it; I don't like wasting half an hour just to find out that they're not interested.

[+ Eric Hassan]

Funny that you say if only there was some SOP for client-provider communications......your quote above is typically standard for human-human communications. I have found that true in non "working " hookups, selling/buying items, finding roommates, and other scenarios. I just expect this as the norm now whenever communicating digitally with anyone (text, email, even voice calls sometimes) and then pleasantly surprised and emotionally/intellectually turned on when someone communicates with well rounded responses.

 

in my frustration with text communictation, i've been someone who's bitched to my friends about one word texts, ignoring questions, etc and my friend have often reminded me of the same thing - that's SOP in the hookup/casual communication world in regards to texting and it's probably how some folx will approach hiring, hence the terse/inadequate communication

 

and i feel you @Trick - you're pointing out that it's not just clients that have room for improvement on their communication! i hope that you are able to frame it in terms of their problem, not yours, and perhaps a sign they may not be the right person for you

 

as an interesting(?) side note, every once in a while i bite and respond to a text message that i might not normailly respond to - i thought maybe the folx who send terse messages might be fine with terse communication in general, and maybe the attitude i'm rocking is costing me business - so, i got a text from this guy recently, someone i have never messaged with before that just said "hey" so i wrote "hey" back and he wrote (2 hours later) "you free?" and i wrote "nope" and he went off on my horrible customer service and how sorry he was that even bothered to look me up

[Trick]

in my frustration with text communictation, i've been someone who's bitched to my friends about one word texts, ignoring questions, etc and my friend have often reminded me of the same thing - that's SOP in the hookup/casual communication world in regards to texting and it's probably how some folx will approach hiring, hence the terse/inadequate communication

 

 

One thing I know, I’ve never had problems communicating with you. Hope to visit NYC again soon.

[desertguy1954]

i would cry tears of joy if i got a message like this - and i would answer all the questions without hesitation

 

being upfront is fine - it's when i get a message from someone i've never talked to before that says "what's your rate?" and nothing else - annoying partly because i link my website with all of this information on it already but mostly because you're a stranger and if you can't even bother to say "hello, my name is ___" than i wonder how much you actually care about what you're doing, and how nicely you'll treat me - i'm also quite likely to completely ignore the one word texts as @MrMattBig above mentioned ("avail?" "into")

 

i appreciate the efficiency of including your name, approximate location, in or out, days/times you're looking to meet, and any questions you have in your first text - it tells me that you think about what you're doing, you're interested in meeting me (not just lookinhg for a body) and that you care about YOUR experience - i mean, you're planning on spending a lot of money, don't you care about the experience even a little?

I usually start by saying how much I enjoyed your profile and pics. Also that I am an older btm guy who enjoys a good top. Also that I am looking for at least 2 hours of time. I don't like to rush and want to enjoy our time.

When I get a response, I then go into a bit more detail of what I enjoy and also how much it would be for our time together.

[desertguy1954]

Forgot this, also in the first text I do give my name and and also if you can host.

[Trick]

My first text is almost always “Hi (name), are you visiting (city)?” Just to make sure I got the right number.

 

When I get a reply, that’s when I send a longer message about the time, place, rates and “intos”.

[DaltonPrescott]

Perfect message....

"Hi, saw your ad on RM. I am into (xyz) and am available to meet up (state when you are looking/availability). I am in (general location) and able to (whether you can host travel or both).

If this sounds like a good fit for you, let me know your rates for (length of time you are looking for).

Love your ad and looking forward to hopefully meeting you!"

 

spot on!

[+ 7829V]

That’s the first thing I ask.

this is a business transaction.

I’m not trying to conquer the escort’s heart.

[+ peterhung85]

When initially being texted by a client, how well do you react to first being asked about your rates? Or to ask how close an escort currently is?

 

Since RM removed their rates, I do need to ask the rate (as much as I'd like not having to).

 

Also, because of my position near Chicago, I do see the need to ask if clients are okay to travel a little (30 minute Uber ride).

 

However, several times, I've had escorts immediately and categorically decline me if I asked them one of these too early.

 

What are working providers looking for? Cutting to the chase? Or moving slowly?

It is a very customer unfriendly environment out there in terms of websites not showing any rates anymore, so obviously if I was a client looking to obtain services of other gentlemen, my first question would be about rates. It is absolutely reasonable to ask immediately and I always send my website URL where I list everything related to that.

 

The only time I would decline to see a client is if the client asks me how much I charge to perform certain sexual services. Since that's illegal, that's where the emailing ends, otherwise I always provide the infomation that is necessary for the potential client to determine whether he is interested in retaining my services or not.