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As you know, I've been refraining from posting for the last couple of months... thought I'd give everyone a rest. But this recent controversy has required a response and I am grateful to see others responding strongly as well.

 

But I am surprised and just a little disappointed in your response so far. Instead of making a strong statement condemning Sean's recording of clients without their knowledge -- and threatening other people posting on YOUR board -- you have sought out old threads and started posting additional responses to them.

 

Your point is not subtle; your post in the "Where are the escorts" thread that I started months ago seems to clearly lay the blame for the disappearance of the escorts at the feet of the people who are posting now in regard to this matter. It seems you think we are overreacting and should leave Sean alone and play nice.

 

I think you miss the point entirely. What Sean did was reprehensible at least and most likely illegal. Threatening to use the tapes against someone posting here was a big violation of the spirit of this place, if not your rules.

 

It is not the fault of the clients here that this controversy has erupted and we are not the guilty parties. When someone has done something so objectionable, it would be far worse to remain silent and condone it. Think of the message that would convey: all of the escorts would start thinking "hmmm... perhaps I should tape people, too."

 

I am reminded of the thread Matt started about the escort in Canada who had been blackmailing his client for years. We were rightly outraged in that case. I see this as just a step removed from that -- somehas a tape of someone else, made without his knowledge or permission, and is threatening to make that tape public on the Internet. Where is your outrage?

 

Someone asked you to put a flag on Sean's reviews and you had to think about it? HB, we expect more of you.

 

And if the escorts flee this site because we become outraged over outrageous behavior, then that's a price I'll willingly pay. But I happen to think that many could make good, strong contributions here that would actually help their business. The key would seem to be to take Matt's approach instead of Sean's.

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To not take action against Sean for his words and actions on this board is an outrage! It leaves the entire premis and integerty of the reviews in question. Why does this escort get flags, while this one does not.

 

I just went back and read several reviews of escorts with flags. What Sean has does rates up there with the top reasons for placings flags on an escort. An escort threatens another escort, threatens to play a recording, shows the most vile disrespect to the persons who "funded" him over the years, "THE CLIENTS".

 

I am new to this site but have enjoyed it very much. I've posted some threads when I needed a question answered and have found the help I was looking for. (I could never post anything like that on Fox News Message boards!)I admit I do not hire many escorts. But this board did serve its purpose for me, plus entertained me.

 

It looks like Sean knows something we don't. HB knows who we're dealing with, but do WE know WHO we are dealing with? Why is HB so defensive and unwilling to "punish" Sean? I read an email today where he even sounded like Sean when he told the writer we "would all be better off without" his type on the board. I expect I will get the same message from HB after this. Whats going on here? Is HB afraid of Sean or does it go deeper than that?

 

I do hope I am allowed to stick around long enough to see the outcome (like we don't already know.) For me, this board will never be the same.

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dear hooboy,

i know you put up with alot of shit and sometimes this board can be a pain in the ass for you and the work you do is appreciated and i have thanked you before for providing this board. however, sean's response to my posting was uncalled for. it gave both his positive side ("a very good cocksucker") and his negative side of being arrogant and having a personality i did not enjoy. his responses on this board now and in the past more than illustrate his negative side.

 

sean selfdestructed. no one was as negative about him as the picture he created of himself. he has no one to blame. all in all, this board and the reviews are positive towards the good escorts and very few reviews are unfavorable.

 

as to "where have all the escorts gone?", the good ones do post and get business because of it. just reading matt in vancouver's writings over time paint a picture of an escort who enjoys his work, treats his clients right and is successful. while i have not had the opportunity to hire him, i would if the opportunity presented itself.in fact, the only bad comments i have ever seen directed against matt were not by a client but by an escort---sean!

 

it is often the client who gets bashed here and not the escort. while some of the escort responses take responsibility when there is a problem, many trash the client who made the bad review.

 

i like the way you verify the reviews and give the escort a chance to respond. all in all, this is a good place and i enjoy the postings.i recently sent you money and will do so in the future because i appreciate your work.

 

in the case at hand, sean would just not shut up. he kept posting and would not let go. there was no reason for him to keep it up and layering it on.if there was a problem, it falls totally at sean's door. he is the one to be controlled.none of the client posts were mean or vindictive.

 

thanks for listening, hooboy

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RE: A note to HooBoy

 

LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-00 AT 09:27PM (EST)[p]BigJoey,

 

We all have our likes and dislikes. Sean's responses to you were inappropriate and I told him so.

 

Sean and I are not pals nor do we have a relationship any more than a few others here who I have had the good fortune to meet.

 

The previous two posts are totally off-base as well. Will's post is out of the ball park it is so filled with innacuracies.

 

I try to run an accurate site. I spend a lot of time and money tracking down reviewers especially when it involves a negative review.

 

I have notated Sean's site even though he did not beat anyone up or rip any one off that I have record of. But the village wants blood. Sean used poor judgement in his posts and that's all I have to go on.

 

HooBoy

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LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-00 AT 09:29PM (EST)[p]I think you should go back a read what that guy wrote me. Read it carefully.

 

He had only been around a month, made a judgement and dismissed the site.

 

I said, "Good riddance" because this site is built on individuals who build credibilty over time. If he wants to abandon it after a month, without even submitting one review, so be it. WE do not need that type of person here.

 

You'll notice many reviewers have a "thumbs up" because they exude credibility. In time, those ranks will grow. But for our fair weather friends and for those who may have an axe to grind because they got a bad rap (hello?) I say, GOOD RIDDANCE

 

HooBoy

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Out of the Ball Park

 

Hoo, I owe you an apology. When I wrote those four points yesterday afternoon, I was relying on my sometimes faulty memory regarding the dinner with Sean. I had forgotten that he initiated the topic without your foreknowledge or permission, and I had also forgotten that you responded to the whole situation with measured politeness but certainly not enthusiasm. I did think the entire exchange was odd, but that was not your responsibility. And I remembered your simple civility as "praise," which it certainly was not. I used the word "gratuitous" because your kindess seemed unearned; in its backhanded way, that wasn't really inaccurate. At all events, I sincerely apologize and ask your forgiveness.

 

As for my other three comments, I stand by them. The "facts" on which they are based are facts about me -- not about Sean -- and therefore I am the only one who can determine their degree of accuracy. And lest someone accuse me of having joined in the name-calling fray with that string of diagnostic adjectives preceding "sociopath," I can only hope that he'll read my words closely. I meant precisely -- and only -- what I said. I don't know whether the real human being who calls himself "Sean the World Escort" is like that or not; my impression of his professional persona, which I assume to be manufactured, is based solely on what he and others allow me to know from this site.

 

By the way, I respectfully disagree with those who think that this is just a cat fight. It isn't. And it isn't "just sex" we're talking about. Many clients, myself included, assume for good reason that the escort will treat their anonymity and confidentiality with absolute integrity. That, by the way, I regard as an escort's professional responsibility, whatever he thinks or wishes he could do in private.

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HoBoy,

 

I did go back and re-read the posting. You were right in what he said, I was wrong and I admit it. Please accept my appology.

 

BUT... do you think the only way one can build up creditability and contribute to the site is to go out and hire an escort and write a review? Is this ALL the site is for? What about a person who has a question and seeks out the guidence of other with their experience, trying to find an answer.

 

Maybe I don't belong at this site. I like to think of myself as a man of high moral standards, (thus my outrage at the actions of an escort)I can't help the fact that I'm in love with an ex-escort and we have been having problems with sex and I sought out answers from people with experience in this area. I can't help the fact that this is the only man I wish to have sex with, so I have a hard time conviencing myself I need to go out and hire an escort to fill the lack of sex in my life.

 

For me as a man, this site has proven valuable to help me make decisions that I feel are just as important if not more that hiring an escort and submiting a review. Frankly, after what has transpired in the last 48 hours, the site has help me make the decision not to hire an escort, anytime in the near future.

 

As I stated, I've enjoyed the site greatly, but if I'm in the wrong place since I do not plan on using the services of an escort in the near future, so be it.

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