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I agree about negotiations within the massage time. Total turn off and immediately I just say "no thanks, just a massage", I give a tip that I would for a normal massage, and I don't return.

I don't recommend Philip. He started negotiating tip, said he couldn't say how much was a "good tip", but when I offered him $50 he said it was way too low. Times Square Men Spa used to be my go-to, but is no longer good, especially since Alvin left. Disappointing

to clarify, it went slightly beyond basics (I left relieved, I wouldn't say happy) and he did "halfway" wipe me off, but definitely not up to standards that you'd expect at 27/HK. Like I said, with just 15 more min of service including a more thorough wipe down, it would have been a good experience worth repeating.

Had Santiago a couple weeks ago. The massage started out ok, although he didn't speak one word upon entering the room and until about 20 min into the massage where he asked if everything was ok. I was on my back in under 30 min and he was done and out of the room in under 45 min. I usually tip well, but shortage of time is an automatic $20 reduction in tip and non repeat for me (this usually doesn't happen here, but seems happening more often as it did with one of the asian guys that I didn't get his name (I think Nick) last month. I can't understand why they do this - offer an average/slightly above average massage, but ruin it by cutting off 10-15 min?!?!?!? Crazy that ten more min of massage I would have probably been a repeat customer and left at least a $20 larger tip. The strangest thing about Santiago is when he ended the massage he just did a half assed job of cleaning off the oil and left the room without saying anything (I thought he went to get another towel since it was still under 45 min into the massage and I was still sticky with oil). After laying there for well over 5 min waiting, I got dressed and got the hell out feeling like I wasted time and money.

I called for Peter at Renew 8th Ave last week and the lady told me he works Fri., Sat., and Mon., but who knows if that's true.

Agree Energy and Grandee are two of the worst choices in NYC. In my experiences they are both dirty, short you on time, tips are solicited, and one handed (other hand texting) is more common than not. Alvin consistently delivers a solid massage, is respectful and earns his tips.

just about anywhere... 27 spa, HK spa, TS spa, Shangrila spa

I also tried two different guys here. Nice facilities, average massage, upsold both times, won't return. There are better options.

excellent strong solid massage with some sensual touch/teasing

Max at 27 Men Spa

Thanks. It may be partially psychological to begin with, but the pills make it worse. Interesting to hear about not concerning yourself about the bottom's pleasure as much. When I'm able to do that I have noticed that it helps a little. Maybe I'll try Vardenafil. Otherwise I'm a pretty healthy guy with a decent diet, don't smoke, no alcohol or drug use, who's always taken an extended period of time to ejaculate.

It takes me a long time to ejaculate and I often can't do it without manual stimulation. I've used both viagra and cialis and while they cause hard erections, I find it nearly impossible to ejaculate when using either. Does anyone else have this problem and if so is there anything that I can do to help? Thanks

Tried Phil at Batman Spa last week based on feedback on this and Batman Spa and older masseurs thread. I wouldn't say he's that much older, but not a twink - maybe early 30's. Nice and gifted guy. Decent massage at first, escalated quickly with upsell if that's what you're looking for. An ok experience that actually lasted the full hour, glad I tried, won't repeat though.

I would have tipped more. Massage was $90 I tipped $60

Had a great massage at Times Sq Mens Spa with Latino (Harry? couldn't understand his name). Unfortunately a 90 min massage ended in 75 min. Killed the whole experience. Why do guys do this?!? They work hard for 75% of the time and ruin it by shorting the time. As I was laying there I thought I had found a new regular but the time short made me feel ripped off. Oh well, on with the search.

I agree with MarkNY with walls that go all the way to ceiling and doors, in addition a quiet room with an appropriate temperature. The two worse things in my book: don't solicit or bargain for tips and absolutely don't cut the session short. That drives my business elsewhere permanently.

This place is disgusting! Dirty rooms, old old old towels, one handed massages while they text with the other, and demanding of high tips.

ahhhhhhh, thanks. Can't imagine paying that for anyone.

I saw him about 5 years ago. Decent massage, nice clean apartment, MT, HE. Didn't ever repeat though.

There's a guy on rentmasseur in Philly who goes by Arab Experience who's very intriguing to me. Has anyone tried him?

Tony and Alan used to be my two go-tos at Greenhouse on 14th St pre covid. Anyone know where they are now, specifically Alan?

I went there a few weeks ago. Got a skinny, older guy. Decent massage, but mechanical rushed ending. Saw a muscular good looking guy taking in another customer. Anyone know who this guy is? Is he Kai? Thanks!

Had a massage at 27 on Tuesday and noticed a good looking asian guy when I was leaving. Anyone know the current asian guy's names here?

I find this hard to believe. Alvin is a very nice, respectful guy.

Greenhouse used to be my goto. I wonder why their new location hasn't been discussed.